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TREMORS - The Good, The Bad, and The Graboids
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In Episode 37 of Secret Level, we jump in and discuss the classic 1990 sci-fi horror comedy adventure film Tremors, which stars Kevin Bacon, Fred Ward, Michael Gross, Finn Carter, and Reba McEntire! This movie is so awesome and it’s always a great film to revisit because it’s so much fun! It’s just one of those films from our childhood that still puts a smile on our faces when we watch it. It’s Crazy because Kevin Back originally hated this movie and resented it! There are a lot of interesting behind-the-scenes details that we learned about this movie and as always we also offer some silly commentary! So, please join us on our journey as we talk about Tremors!
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So they're all gonna fight each other soon for ultimate power. So absolute power. Yeah. Yes. Mm. That's fun. That's fun. So much fun. Mm, so much fun. You know what's so much fun? What's tremors? Tremors was so much fun, so much fun. So much fun. Like I, I forgot how much fun I, uh, it is in that, uh, film. like the most fun. All right, I think we're recording now, Billy. I think this is it. Uh, well, I mean this is it at long last. This is it. This is, I'm ready. This is the end. This is the end of the road. Actually, this is the end, my friend. It's actually just the beginning. It's the beginning of the road. What? No one ever says that it's the beginning of the road. It's the start of the road. They should. They should. Same. More often. It's the launch of the road. It's always just the end of the road. There is no end. The road never ends. Even if it does, you can just make the road. Keep going. Hmm. Deep thoughts by Joey Parr. Right. man. We have to take the first step in this endless journey. Endless journey of life at the pursuit of happiness. Oh, we all know what brings happiness. Yeah. Boy, money. Woo. I was gonna say tremors, but I'll go with money. Yeah, money. Woo. Okay. So money brings like a little bit of happiness. It makes it so you don't have to stress about it. Right. And you could buy a jet ski with money. You can buy jet skis, you can buy toys, you can buy movie posters, buy jets with skis, bro. And, and you know, you have a family when you have a family, like money comes in handy cuz you get to like, take'em to Disneyland and take'em on trips and stuff. So yeah, money, you know, in a way brings in some happiness into life. But, but it is not the only thing. You can still live a wonderful, fulfilled life if you just watch tremors once a year. Mm, yes. That is real. That is the fuel that you need to keep going. So, so let's say you hit that hard spot, right? And you're like, ah, man, I'm so stressed about money and bills right now. But then you're like, ah, I need to watch tremors. And then when you're done watching it, you're just so happy and you're just so overjoyed with, with the film and you're just like, man, I'm gonna go out and play in some dirt now. And that's really all you need. I'm going to play in some dirt Yeah. Hey kid, get off that pogo stick. It's just amazing that when Kevin Bacon tax tackles Lexi from Jurassic Park, the pogo stick just sticks straight up. Yeah. It doesn't move. I thought that was amazing. It was. It was so amazing. It is the magic trick of all magic tricks that only Kevin Bacon could pull off. Right. Only Kevin Bacon, which he had magical hair in this movie. Yes, he did. But there's, there's, but before we go any further, we're already talking about it. We're already like kind of wanting We're, we're antsy here. We're itching to talk about this movie. Okay. Okay. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Hello? Yes. I'm Joey Parr, host of secret level. And joining me today. You guys, you aren't gonna believe this guest that we have today. I'm so very excited to introduce you to this guest. Host that we have today. It is, it is amazing. I'm, I don't even, I can't even contain my excitement for who's joining us today. Yeah. I can't wait. Billy Fisher is here with us. The one and only man. I am like the Fred Ward to your Kevin Bacon. Oh, shit. Yeah. Shit. Just got real shit. Just right now. Get real for real. It did. It's, I'm not even, it's, yes. It's not even a question. And today we are obviously going to talk about the classic film Tremors Tremors, directed by Ron Underwood starring Kevin Bacon. and Fred Ward. I can't wait. I'm so excited. So before we get into some tremors fun, what did you do this week? Oh, well, Billy, uh, it's actually been a couple weeks since we've recorded. It's been very busy. Yeah, it's a very busy time of year. I, I think we're late on this one, on this podcast, but That's okay. That's okay. Things happen. Things happen. I have been in Utah covering the Sundance Film Festival over the past couple of weeks, and that has been madness. I watched about 25 films while I was there. And out of that 25, how many were good? I would say four. Ooh, that's a bigger number than I thought you were gonna say. Good. Okay. And, and I'll, I'll list them off real quick. My number one favorite was Talk to Me, which is a horror film from Australia about these kids that, just for fun, they are able to see dead people and then get possessed by them. They do that for a good time. Okay. Anyway, that's all I'm gonna give you. Good cuz I really wanna see it. You hyped it up a lot. It's so good. It's so good. It definitely my favorite. Okay. The other movie that I really liked was the Michael J. Fox documentary titled, still a Michael J. Fox movie. And I love this movie. It's kind of like the perfect feel of this. It's like, it's kind of like the perfect movie to talk about on this podcast at some point cuz it has just this very heavy nostalgia factor to it. Just seeing Michael j Fox's story from when he was a little kid to becoming this big star, to going through the Parkinson's stuff, I mean, it's a fascinating story to have him tell. It was just really interesting. So I really enjoyed that. Yeah, on the list. I think that was the one that I wanted to see the most. Yeah, that one's coming to Apple TV plus, so you'll be able to watch that at some point. Plus, plus plus, yes. The other movie I watched that I liked was, uh, another, it's another horror movie. It's a Filipino horror movie based on like Filipino lore, legend, stuff like that. It's called In My Mother's Skin. And it was just very creepy, very brutal. It's like about this little girl that finds this fairy in the woods that like promises her to make her life better if she accepts these things, but in reality it makes things worse. So I really like that one a lot. The title alone is creepy, so. And the other one that I really liked was kind of like a fun action movie called Polite. Okay. It was just a fun, playful, lighthearted movie that, that I thought was great. Oh, oh, and I forgot there was actually one more, there's one more Bill. Oh my goodness. Yeah, so there's more Five. There's five. Uh, the other one was, is called Florence Sun, and it has Joseph Gordon Levin in it, and it's directed by the filmmaker who made movies such as, sing Street and, oh, what was it, once wonderful music movies. Oh, yeah. And so I, I very much enjoy. That movie, John Carney is the director of that movie. And there you go. It was just fantastic. So that's it. Those are, those are my top five from Sundance. Uh, the rest of the movies I saw were either mediocre. Okay. And then I'd say there were maybe a handful, were just terrible, terrible films that when it was done, I had to go wash my eyes out with soap Fantastic. So, so I spent a lot of time at Sundance, watching movies, reviewing those movies, and now I am back. The podcast is going again, and I'm happy. Good. I'm glad you're happy. That sounded like, uh, quite a, an adventure. Um, Saturday didn't get to go, but there's always holding out hope for next year. It was an adventure of adventureness. I love it. And it was cold. It was so cold. Well, I'm sure it's Utah in the winter. Yes. Yes. That's outrageous. What about you, Billy? Um, I spent this week working,, I watched this crazy show, uh, on Netflix called Allison Borderland. Oh. So I've been hearing a lot about this show. I have not watched it yet, but I have been hearing, a lot of things from a lot of people. And now I'm gonna hear a lot of things from. No, you see, I don't want to give them, give much weight cuz I actually did it. Um, I just hit the random show feature on Netflix. I like to do that every once in a while. and it took me by surprise. I had never heard of it before. I had no inkling of what it was about going into it, but man, first episode it gets you. So I finish one. I'm gonna watch season two. So good. So good. I also re re-read one of my favorite Stephen King books, which is the Long Walk. And every time I read it, I think Joey and I need to make this movie. Well, Stephen King does sell the rights to his books for a dollar. So yeah. So I'm hoping to get his attention and get the rights. I'll buy that for a dollar. Robocop. I can't wait till we do that one. That and, Let's see. That's pretty much it. That was my, that was my week. Watched the show, read a book. Yeah, I got back into Eldon ring and remembered why my heart was so broken. So yeah, that was, that was my week. I have to look it up now. I don't know. You're the one who told me to watch. Arrested Development. Arrested development. Okay. So cut this in. I'm gonna start, start that over again. Okay. So I don't have much to do when you Yeah, there we go. I, I don't have much to do when you go to Sundance. So I walk around my house like Michael Sarah from Arrested Development, the sad Snoopy song plays, and I have my head hung down. Okay. And I watch Alison Borderland and read books to keep myself entertained. Sounds like a good time. Well, now I can. Yes. Okay. Now I have to watch this. Alison Borderland. I, I gotta, I gotta do it. It, I gotta do it. So worth it. So here we go. All right, here we go. We're jumping into tremors. Everybody. This is it. This is it. I've been waiting a long time for this one. I felt like now was the right time, and so I'm going to read the synopsis. Are you ready? Yes. Here we go. Repair man. Hold on. Gotta do it with a straight face repairman. Val McKee and Earl Bassett are tired of their dull lives in the small town of perfection, Nevada. But just as the two try to skip town, they happen upon a series of mysterious deaths and a concerned seismologist studying unnatural readings below the ground with the help of an eccentric couple. The group fights for survival against giant worm-like monsters, hungry for human flash, I felt like I was about to go on Big Thunder Mountain That was great. All right. So yeah. Val and Earl man, the greatest movie duo of all time. These two guys all time, these two guys they're, they're eating bium beans. they're enjoying life. They've got a truck filled with junk and they just do odd jobs for cash to, I guess, just eat Right, right, right. I don't know. they're, they're living the life of, of the, the opposite of luxury. They're just, they are living, they are survival mode type people, and they don't seem bothered by it. Like it, that's exactly what they wanna be doing. They're happy. Yeah. They're just absolutely, they're just out there just having a good time. I mean, Kevin Bacon's character Valentine is just like always just like, RA ramped up to an 11 in his energy all the time. Like he is just like, all the time, let's do this. Woohoo. You know, he's just like, he's just an awesome guy that, you know, you'd wanna spend time with him because that energy just like rubs off on you. Right. If you were to spend time with a guy like that in real life, that energy would just like propel you into the stratosphere of greatness, and you would just wanna be a happy person for the rest of your life. Absolutely. And then you've got Earl, who's the exact opposite, and I think that's probably why they work out, you know? Yes, yes. Earl's, that type of guy that knows everything, but 90% of it is wrong, which is cool, but that gives him that confidence to keep up with vows. So, I mean, that's good stuff. It's so funny. But yeah, I do love these characters. The characters are a lot of fun. And this little town that they're in, this, this little town of perfection is filled with, I think the population is 14, is that correct? Yeah. Well, I mean, the way I look at it is if, um, if you've never seen tremors, think of the personifications of all the people from, well, all the cars from Radiator Springs brought to life as people, and then there you go. But Radiator Springs had a bigger population than profess. Uh, yeah, I would say so. Yeah. But it has, you know, it, it's the array of actors that are in this movie that I didn't realize were in this movie. when I was younger. Yeah, it, it's fantastic. I always knew about Michael Gross though, like cuz I Oh yes. Michael Gross. I grew up watching Family Ties and he went from family ties to this movie. Like I think, uh, it was one day. It was one day Family Ties. Yep. Had ended and the next day he was out making tremors in this completely, totally different role, unlike anything you've ever seen him in before. And he's just the most awesome, badass character in this movie. He was like my favorite character when I was a kid cuz it was just, he was just so cool and he had an arsenal of weapons. It was just amazing. My favorite part about that is, is that he called it his rec room his armory downstairs full of every weapon you can think of. He tells the grab, that's what you get for a. Getting into somebody's rec room. Yep. I mean, oh, that quote is the guy, was he, this is a, this is the actual quote. The actual quote broke into the wrong goddamn rec room, didn't you? You bastard Perfect. And he really made the Tremors franchise his own. He did, he did. I'm glad. All seven films. Yes. I can't believe this Spawns seven movies. Yes. The first one is the best though. The first one is 100% by far the best. Later on in this episode, I'm gonna give you the names of all, all sixth of the sequels. And they just continually get better and all right, now I have to watch, I have to watch the seventh one because John Hader. That's right. The one and only Napoleon Dynamite. Is in the seventh movie. That's funny. With Michael Gross. I haven't seen the seventh movie yet. Me either. I didn't know it existed until yesterday. Oh, really? So I knew it existed. Yes. I just haven't seen it. Okay. All right. Yeah. Here we go. We got some background info for you. Yes, yes. Just a couple observations that I wanna make that I thought was funny. These things, like I wrote some things down while I'm watching the movie, and these are just the things that I thought was great because these guys are handyman, right? You got Valentine's right and Earl, and they're like supposed to be like guys that know what they're doing. Manly men who know how to do stuff with tools. Right? Yes. They have the tools and the talent, and it's like one of the first things we're seeing them do is they're hammering down these, these, uh, barbed wire posts, right? Uh, And it takes, Valentine about 10 times before he finally hits the nail in, on, on the top of this thing. He's just sitting there, pounding, missing, missing, missing, missing, missing, missing until he finally hits it. I just thought that was just a great little, great little detail. Look, no one said they were the best handyman in the world. just in perfection. That's it. Yeah. The other thing, so there's this one scene that has stuck with me ever since I was a kid and every time I see it I'm like, it. It's kind of horrifying for me just because when I was a kid I thought it was horrifying. Okay. When they find, when they go to this old guy's house and they're like, I can't remember the guy's name, but they're looking for the guy and they find, is this the sheep guy? Yes, the sheep guy. Old Fred. Old Fred, okay. Yep. And they find his face just. in the dirt with this. Look on his face, his eyes open, his mouth open with this look of terror on his face. Mm-hmm. in the ground and it's just his face in the dirt, just his face. Yes. And I, and it's just one of those things where it's like, it just his al that's one scene that just always has like stuck with me ever since I first saw this movie. And dude, it's terrifying. And every time I see it, I always get reminded of how I felt when I was a kid. Right. That same kind of feeling comes back and I love Valentine's reaction where he is like, what's going on? I mean, what in the hell is going on? Going on? That was my quote, Okay, now I gotta think of a new one. But yeah. Um, so you saw this in the movie theater, right? Yes. I saw this in the movie theater. Once again, Maybe we're a little too young to see this in the theater, but No, it always has stuck with me as one of my favorite movies of all time, cuz I had so much fun in it. It was, it's a like i super fun movie. 100%. Yes. I mean, but seriously, these, these, uh, creatures, these gras creatures are like, I mean, what a horrible way to die just to be sucked into a ground, to be sucked into the ground by a monster like that. I mean, that is just awful. The worst. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing too is that, there was, there was a perfect amount of setup. There was like, what, five minutes of setup and then the then. you start seeing the, the ripples in the sand coming at people, which I thought was perfect. They didn't spend too long doing all the setup. Yeah. And it had like, they, they also utilized Sam Rainey's, evil Dead shots. Where From the point of view? Yes. Oh, underground. Yeah, dude. Totally paying homage to him. Just right away, when they go after, uh, Rhonda, when it goes after Rhonda when she's getting in the truck. Fantastic. Oh yeah, I was, man, it's kind of like one of those things, you know how in movies they made quick sand seem a lot scarier than what it really is? Yes. Anytime I was near Sand for a while after that, I was always looking for that ripple coming at me. Heck yeah, of course. Why not? Yep. So, before we go on, one quick question. Yes. Do you think they've always been here or do you think they're aliens? I think they're aliens. Perfect. Do you notice the resemblance to the grabs and the aliens in Starship Troopers? Yeah, I can see the resemblance for sure. They're, their mouths are a lot the same. Yeah. So maybe they came to earth and evolved into something that's more deadly. Hey, maybe, who knows? I don't know. I love it. Yeah. Oh, I know. So anyway, is it another thing that when I, from when I was a kid, when they were pole vaulting from rock to rock, I always wanted to do that Dude, I love that scene. I still had fun with that scene. And let's talk about one thing real quick. The music. Oh yeah. I think this is the last of the eighties. Electronic music in a movie, maybe it might be, It seemed a little too chipper for what was going on, but it worked. But it worked. It's exactly what it needed to be, but it worked. I don't know. And, and just on a side note, in high school I did pole vaulting because of this movie. Yes. Actually, I don't think you're quite, I just made that up. I did do pole vaulting, but I, I It wasn't tremors that, that inspired that. But I, I can say that now. Yeah, we can say that. No one will ever just Cause when I was a kid, I always did wanna pole vault from one big rock to the other. Yes. And I always thought it was funny when they got to the truck and, Rhonda jumps through the back window and she like slams her hand on the gas. And this truck just takes away, dude. But that truck is steering really well for someone that's not even holding the steering wheel. So I came over with the conclusion that the truck was just as anxious to go as they were. Yes. Yeah. But yeah, the truck, I thought it was great that she got it into gear. Hell outta there Yep. She got it into gear without, touching the brake. Yes. That was great. It was amazing. This is very good truck driving skills right there. Perfect. Rhonda was amazing. I just like the fact that they kept asking her questions in Ave and eventually in the middle of the movie, she's like, why do you guys keep asking me You know what I mean? They were, I know they were all asking her cuz she went to college. She Well, like she knows, like they have more life experience than she does, right? Yes. So I did think that was funny too. She has like, oh man, the least amount of experience out of all the people in that town. Because she's like the outsider, right? She's just studying stuff, right? Yeah. But apparently her college education uh, propels her into the leader role of the situation. Exactly. And why is no one ever keeping an eye on Mindy on that pogo stick? Like she's always on the pogo stick. And when they're all like trying to stay safe, Mindy's out there just pogoing away. And that's what I was wondering. Like you've got monsters trying to eat you and you're gonna let your kid just float off and go hang out on her. Uh, her pogo stick. They don't wanna make any noise, but the pogo stick's fine. It's, it's fine. Um, so we got, Ariana Richards playing Mindy in this movie. Then she goes on to play Lexi in Jurassic Park. Yes. No wonder she quit acting She got tired of being chased by giant monsters. I don't, I'd be, I'd be pretty done too. She could have made a career out of that though. There's, there's some really good, good monster movie and she started two great monster movies, so, right. What the heck? Anyway, okay. I don't know. Yeah. Uh, tremors was not a big hit when it was released in theaters. It didn't end up gaining the popularity that it currently has until after it hit the home video market and it, when it did hit that market, it tripled its original box. Offers gross just in VHS sales and rentals. That's outrageous and that's why that's awesome. It's, it's awesome. But it's also why all of the sequels have been straight to D V D movies. Apparently you guys like these DVDs. Here you go. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. I owned it on VHS and I saw it in the movie theater, so I, I, yeah, it's always been one of those movies for me. It's like the fallback movie if you got nothing else to watch. There you go. SS Wilson, the screenwriter of the movie got the idea while he was working for the US Navy in the California desert while resting on a rock. It was there. He imagined what it might be like if something underground kept him from getting off the rock, and that was the birth of the story. Nice. Okay. Kevin Bacon originally resented being in Tremors. One of the things that I find crazy about this movie coming together is that I love Kevin Bacon in this movie. I think he's great, and I think he gives a super fun performance. And it's crazy because. He took on that role, he resented it. He was not a fan of being in this movie. He only agreed to do it because he needed the money, because he had just gotten married and he had a kid on the way. And when the film wasn't financially successful, he thought his career was over. And in the years after, he completely refused to acknowledge the film's existence and even called it the Worst Thing I ever Did. However, yeah, he is not, he is not a big fan of Tremors originally, Now, bacon would eventually come around calling Tremors the single most fun time I've ever had, making a movie in my entire career. He said that, uh, back in 2012 and later in 2020 in an interview, he said, when I was making tremors, I was very depressed and at a low point in my life, and I kind of blamed Tremors for all that I was bitter against it. I thought it was a career killer. I never watched my movies more than once. Some of my movies I've never even seen before and have no desire to, but I've watched Tremors a dozen times. I love it so much and I spent years trying to capture that same energy we had on the scent of Tremors. It was one of my favorite films of all time. So he went from resenting this movie and hating it back in the day when he did it cuz he thought it was going to kill his career to embracing what it was and trying to capture that feeling that he had while making it the first time around. Like so he is chasing that feeling in his, in his future films now. It's just fascinating how that can change. When you look back on something, you see how positive and. of an experience that it was, and I thought, I think it's really cool that it actually did come around and, you know, now he wants to make a sequel. Now he's like, oh yeah, I'd love to do it. If someone asked me to do it, I'll do it. You know? So, uh, if they ever did do a direct sequel to the Tremors, or, I mean, there are, like you said, there are multiple sequels already, but if they did a bigger sequel, kind of like a, maybe like, you know, what they're doing now with like Halloween and with these movies where they're just like, pretending like all the movies don't exist. right? Yes. And then they're like, here's the, see, here's the, here's the real sequel to it. Right. I think that's what he's looking at, but I have no idea because there've been plenty of sequels for, for him to be in. But I think he's looking for the right sequel to come around. Right. They would properly do it justice, I guess. So on that same vein, you and I have been thinking of the same thing, so I was like, maybe they'll make it so that Michael Gross's character, became an action star after, and wrote all these movies of him defeating the monsters. And that's pretty much everybody. Awesome. Rolling their eyes at him. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yep. Then Kevin Bacon comes back. We won't get, we won't get Fred Ward, unfortunately, who passed away this last year. Yeah. But I do like that idea, Billy. I think that's fun. Yes. Well, let's, uh, get it started. Let's sell it to Stephen King Yes. Please write this movie. Stephen King, write the tremor. Sequel. Actually, that would be kind of awesome. Um, yeah, it would be, trust me, I thought this through already, man. I'm, I'm, I'm lasered in, but when he was in his low of Lowe's mm-hmm. he talked about. That aspect of it. And it just came to the point where just like he just crashed. Right. And so he says, I broke down and fell to the sidewalk screaming to my pregnant wife. I can't believe I'm doing a movie about underground hers. Yeah. I mean, talk to me about it like that. It doesn't sound the greatest, but I mean, the end product was action packed. It was funny. It had a good story. Yeah. And he came to realize that later on. But yeah, thankfully the movie was originally given an R rating by the M P A A Not for violence though. Not for violence. No, it was for language. See the film before it was edited. included 20 F bombs and mm-hmm. as an appeal. The producers removed all the, the, they just removed the F word with the exception of two. And many of the swears were dubbed over with words including Can you fly sucker? And Yep, we killed that Mother Humper That's my favorite. So it's like weed that mother Humper mother humper. So do you ever watch like movies on T N T or T TBS and they have to replace the swear words? That's my favorite part cuz I wanna know what they came up with. And Mother Humper is one of my favorites now It is so funny. I forgot about that. Oh, how could you forget about Mother Humper? Dude forgot about, Mother Humper. Dang. But it was fantastic. Now, now it's gonna be part of your daily, routine of quoting movies. We killed that Mother Humper. And then there was also, uh, the line, from Val when he's looking over the dead sheep, he says, what the shit And Yes. I think that's where I got that from. Cuz I say that all the time. All the, it's, that is probably my number one. When that, when that came up I was like, phrase. I was like, oh man, I say that way too much. And I'm kind of thinking maybe that's, uh, that's where I got that from. Great line. That was a bloody mess. Yes it was. The sheep were super messed. The filmmakers were forced to add the scene towards the beginning of the film where Rhonda is unknowingly stalked by a OID as she heads to her truck. and the scene where old Fred is killed. They originally wanted no hint of a monster in the film until the road workers are killed. To make the audience think a person may be the killer, like Edgar's death. In the beginning, they didn't want it to think that, you know, there were monsters doing this. The studio instead wanted to. The film as a monster movie. And so they pretty much forced more scenes involving onscreen Kills before the big reveal. So from the very beginning, they wanted you to know that, hey, if there is a monster out here, stalking people and killing them, because obviously they wanted to use that in the marketing for the movie, right? It didn't. I don't think it hurt anything or took anything away. I think the movie is just no fine as it is. It is just wonderful. Uh, yes, the movie is the first role for country music singer, Reba McIntyre. Dude, Reba was great in this movie, but her bangs were even better. They go on a rollercoaster throughout this movie. Dude, her hair I love it is, oh my gosh, wild. That is some wild hair. Out of control. It's the kind of hair that would only exist in a place called perfection. Nevada Absolutely. And it would only belong to a gun toting oid killer like Reba McIntyre. The director was completely not interested in casting McEntire in the. McIntyre actually reached out to the filmmaker to audition for the film, but at the time, he was just sick and tired of seeing these musicians and celebrities trying to become actors, even if they can't act. And he thought it was gonna be way too gimmicky to cash someone like Reba McEntire of the film. But when he finally did let her audition for the role, he was completely blown away by her performance and realized that she had this natural talent as an actress and immediately hired her in the role of Heather Gummer. Fantastic. Fantastic. She and Michael Gross were perfectly cast for that couple. Yes. Oh, Michael Gross. And yeah, those two were just, were great. Just great. You know, he was actually the only star. when they had the, uh, 30th anniversary celebration of tremors back in 2020. Mm-hmm. he was the only star in the movie to show up. It's kind of sad. It's sad, but I mean, cool. It would've been cool to have been there and it was held in Lo Pine, California where the film was shot. That's where the 30th anniversary celebration was held. Had I known about it, I would've gone, but I had no idea there was a celebration going on with this movie. So it's a shame. Yeah. That would've been a cool way to go into the pandemic, is you got to see the 30th anniversary of Tremors. Yes. And then lockdown for the rest of your life. Yes, 100%. That would've been great. The director of the movie knew that Fred Ward was going to be perfect for the role of Earl after watching the 1984 Sci-Fi. Comedy euphoria, yes. That's, I don't know. So I don't know why that was the movie that was like, yes, Fred Ward is going to be great in this, but he was, but he was, he, that Earl was everything that Fred Ward should be. Now there were a lot of other actors, that were considered for the lead roles in this movie. Some of these are actually very interesting. Okay, let's go for it. For the role of Valentine. Bill Paxton, Matthew Modine, and Bruce Campbell. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I could see all three of them. Yep. Paxton and Campbell for sure. But out of those two, who do you think if it wasn't bacon, I love bacon and I wouldn't replace it. Yes, but if you had to choose, who would it be? Billy. It'd be a close race between Bill Paxton and Bruce Campbell due to reactionary scenes alone. Yes. Those guys have the best reactions to things. I know. It's hard. It's really hard to choose just. but because Bruce Campbell seems a little bit more refined in his persona, the persona he brings to, movies, I would have to go with Bill Paxton. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I, I know you're on the Bruce Campbell camp. I, no, but that's the thing. I love Bill Paxton too. And it, yes. And see, I asked you to choose one because I couldn't I would've just, I'm going, I'm going with the Paxton. I would've just cast them both and had'em interchange scenes throughout the movie It's the same character. That is perfection. It is perfection. That is what should happen. Okay. Ask for Earl. You're gonna call Bill Paxton right now? Well, the late Bill Paxton, yes. Okay. just. Yeah, it's gonna be hard, as for the part of Earl Jack Polan, but no director, Ron Underwood was too scared to reach out and ask if he'd even be interested. Yeah. I, here's the thing though. I couldn't see Underwood did go on to work with him on his next project. Yes. So city slickers. So I'm, I'm with you. Okay. That's, but yeah, I don't think he could've done the pole vaulting scene. Like there's no convincing way of Yeah. Getting, he, he would, dude, Jack Morris, he would've been able to pull it off, man. If you seen city slicks, he would've been able to pull it. Dude, dude did one arm pushups at the Academy Awards one year, bro. When he won he could pull vault. He could pull vault. He's got this. Hmm. While writing the, oh, get him too. While writing the script, the screenwriter imagined Bert Gummer being played by Chuck Norris or Clint Eastwood. Yeah. Either one. Chuck Norris. Mm, yes. Absolutely. I, I mean, yeah, Michael Gross obviously got it and was great. But, uh, Chuck Norris all the way, all the way. Ray Liotta was also considered for the role of Val and John Voigt was also considered for the role of Earl. Neither one fit in my mind. What? Neither one of'em aren't even like an option to casting in this movie. Well, I I'm afraid that John Voigt would try to be like Fred Ward and overact that, that role Too much. Yes. That we all that such a weird with those two and it would've been so crazy. Yeah. But I'm, I'm sad we didn't get it. Cause that, I think it would've been hilarious. Been great though. Had Chuck Norris been Bert, so it would've been Chuck Norris, John Foyt and Ray Liotta star in the movie with Rita McIntyre. Yes. In the original screenplay, there was another character. in the movie that ended up being cut in that character, her name was Viola, described as Okay, a nagging and hateful old lady who mostly stayed to herself. She had an aggressive rottweiler that constantly, she meets her demise during the first attack when a grab breaks through the floor of her house and eats her off screen. There's no reason why she ended up being cut from the movie, but that's what you would've seen if she would've been in it. I can understand that. It seemed like just a pointless, but I'm glad they left it out. Yeah, it seemed like a pointless character. Just a Nagi old woman that gets eaten. in the designing of the cowboys, which were very interesting and cool gross designs. Mm-hmm. the special effects crew. Originally one of the ideas was to have an outer shell on mm-hmm. the creature. Mm-hmm. when above the dirt, the shell would retract to reveal a slimier inner worm. However, the production member started to giggle that the, that slimier inner worm resembled, uh, a foreskin. So this was changed to the big worm, sprouting several smaller worms out of its mouth. Which was a cool concept. I liked that concept. I didn't like it. The other one I don't think would've worked so much. It would've been weird to see, but Sure. the only discrepancy I have with the, the worms in this whole thing is out of all the worms that we saw, none of them looked big enough to take down a station wagon. No. You know what I mean? Yeah. They didn't look big enough. None had the, but they were powerful. They were smart. Like, right. These things were, they, they've learned smarter than everyone in that town which I thought was funny. It's, it's interesting because. because the film was a lower budget movie. Mm-hmm. the shots of the, the big worms. They, they couldn't afford to have a lot of those as, so as you saw in the movie, you don't have a lot of shots. Most of it is just the tentacles from the mouth, right? Mm-hmm. the little worms coming out of the mouth. Yes. And that's how they pretty much resolved that budgeting issue to make it cheaper to make, or like, Hey, let's just use the little worms coming out and pulling people down into the big worms. Right. They were cheaper to create. It was cheaper to shoot. Uh, they were created with these cables, you know, hand puppets. Mm-hmm. stuff like that. They're. They are a lot of fun. Uh, it, it brought an extra element of creepiness, like when Val's just standing there and that one is barely missing his foot when he's supposed to be standing there quiet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that whole scene is tense and I love it. Originally the monsters were supposed to be completely dry, not slimy. This was changed when it was remarked that the gloss paint effect made them look like they were cover they were covered in nail varnish. One early dropped concept for the grabs was that they had the ability to perfectly mimic sounds. Hmm. They would use the sounds to lure in the unsuspecting prey. This idea was dropped because the writers thought that the grabs had too many special abilities. dude. No, that would've been perfect. That would've made it scarier. That would've been weird cuz they would've been mimicking car sounds. They would've been mimicking. I mean, could they mimic voices? Could they mimic voices? Like, that's crazy. That would be amazing. That's so wild. Could you imagine? Like it's just like, yeah. You know, it's talking like everybody in the town, right? They make it sound like Mindy's trapped and then just get some, yeah, it's crazy. I could see why they cut it out. That seems like a little too farfetched. And in that case, these things definitely 100% are aliens. Yeah. And they would've just decimated perfection. Oh, no one would've survived. No, never would've been. Everyone would've been like freaking out trying to figure out what the hell was going on. Well, not only that, they'd probably start killing each other thinking that it's the grabs trying to con them into something. And at that point it turns into a Twilight Zone episode. Absolutely Twilight Zone, Twilight Zone, Now, sorry, the grabs do have various sounds on their own, and those sounds have become popular and have been reused in other films over the years. And those sounds can be heard in films such as Predator Two, Starship Troopers, ants Mosquito, eight Legged Freaks, and Kong Skull Island. So they've recycled the sounds of the OIDs over the years, which I thought was kind of fun to learn. I had no idea and I have yet to go looking for the sounds cuz I just learned this information. But when I do re-watch these movies, I am going to keep an ear open. Yes. Actually both ears open. Ooh, getting fancy here, Joe. Oh yeah. The crabs are reminiscent of the sand worms in Dune. Mm-hmm. you know, cuz they're both giant worms living underground in the desert and both have big mouths and respond to vibrations on the surface. also, both of the films have characters escaping the worms by retreating to the safety of rocks. Hmm. Because rocks are safe unless you have, unless they spit dynamite back at you. Which, that was a fantastic scene. It was pretty great. It was crazy though. That was another thing I thought was kind of funny. When the grab spit the dynamite back into the bigger pile of dynamite and it cut, it blows up. Bert is like the only one that stayed on the rocks and it seemed like everyone else was like a mile away. it's such a short amount of time. It's like they got like so far away from the rocks that put'em in this dangerous situation. I'm like, how'd they get away? So how did they get that far so fast? It, it's like that those, uh, in time of crisis, uh, muscle, you know, spasms where everything just seems to like you could lift up a car. Yeah. Or you can run a mile away from a piece of dynamite. Yeah. All right. Well, yeah. We'll see if that ever happens. I will try it. Well, don't start throwing bombs at me dude. No, no, I'm not gonna do that. Just throw you shark ingested waters. Um, the wave effect where the creature is moving beneath the surface and rolling the dirt and porch boards and stuff. That was accomplished by towing a boat buoy behind a pickup truck. In case you're wondering how they pulled that off. I was, that was a cool effect. I liked it. Okay. The first appearance of the full size grab is actually a miniature with a matte painting of the mountains behind them. Oh, okay. Which is really good cuz you can't tell You can't tell. I thought there was there, it was like jaws. They had one, you know, creature to go with, but yeah. That's cool. Yeah. I, in fact, after I watched the movie and read that, I was like, I need to re-watch the movie just to see that scene again because it didn't click that there was anything like, like a miniature with a matte painting in the background. Everything English looked so good. So did look like a, saw this work effects team. Impressive work. After you knew about it and you went back to look at it, did it, could you tell, I, I didn't go back and look, I haven't had a chance to go back and look at it. Uh, I need to do that. The writers of the movie were against showing underground point of view shots for the gras, but the director insisted saying they needed a sense of direction where the monster was and where it was moving, which makes sense, right? You made it more creepy. Yes. As for where the gras came from. Oh, here we go. Film never answers that question. The characters only speculate about it. co-writer and producer SS Wilson felt that there were only four possible options. One, they were aliens. Two, long dormant, prehistoric life. Three worms mutated by radioactive waste, or four creatures, genetically engineered by the government funded mad scientists. Okay, but since all four are possible, all four are very possible. But since, the movie goers would be expecting those twists, the filmmakers felt that it would be more interesting. and would, and would leave more room for sequels if there was no definitive answer and the audience was just left to their imagination. And, and this is one of those instances where it wasn't that bad though, it didn't matter where they came from, we just had to get rid of'em. But it's still, it would be interesting because, you know, if they're aliens, there's a story there. If they're long dormant pre-historic life, there's a story there. Uh, if their worms mutated by radioactive waste, there's a story there. Or you know, if they're creatures genetically engineered by government funded mad scientists, you know, there's another story there like that could tie in with stranger things. Ooh. So I'm just throwing that out there. Ooh, they're all connected. Yes, everything is connected. there are originally six OIDs that were supposed to be in the movie that was whittled down to four to save money. Yeah, makes sense. So there's that. During the scene in which Rhonda had to get out of her jeans to escape the OID that is about to eat her, uh, the actress Finn Carter intentionally didn't rehearse the scene that way. The response she gives to having to undress in front of Kevin Bacon in less than five seconds was authentic. They didn't really show her face doing it, though. It was more, dude, I hated that scene so much because to get wrapped up in barbed wire, Seems so horrible. Oh dude. Barb. Barb wire. That's like, what? I'm like, you don't wanna happen. That's like a fear that I have. I don't know why I'm not around barbed wire a lot, but the thought of getting twisted and barbed wire and then like shimming around and moving and trying to get out of it just makes me cringe. Hardcore. Yes, I am, uh, around all sorts of barbed wire all the time, and so, yep. It freaks me out. There are only two interior sets that were built for this movie. The first was Walter's store. Mm-hmm. and the second was Burton Heather's basement of Death. Yes. Every other shot in the movie's an exterior shot. That's true. Yeah. the movie riffs on old 1950s sci-fi horror films, but they thought it would be funny if, unlike in those films, their scientific expert had no clue where the creatures came from. The studio was not happy about that, and they actually asked them to write a scene where Bert ready for this, finds mm-hmm A U F O and Eggs. They wrote this in the script, pitched it to the crew, and everyone agreed that it was a horrible idea and thankfully they did not move forward with it. Excellent. I just think it's funny that the studio executives asked them to write a scene where Burt finds a U F O and eggs, like it'd be something outta aliens, right? Mm-hmm. it kind of seems like that might be what they were thinking. In regards to that. Like these OIDs were like some kind of xenomorph. Right, right. Loosely tying it to them. So they tried to make it a aliens connection. Not really, but you know, Remember that scene I told you about at the beginning where, Valentine was like trying to hammer that thing down? Yeah. So that little gag where he does that with the hammer was not scripted in the movie. It was Kevin Bacon's spontaneous idea, and Fred Ward's reaction was completely genuine. Oh, cool. Yeah, that was a great scene. It's one of the memorable scenes. Yes. Burt's 1989 gmc Jimmy was mm-hmm. Michael Gross's own personal vehicle. Hmm. He bought it brand new in 1988 and kept it until 1997. And in 1997 he bought a new GMC Jimmy, which he kept until 2006. Just so you know, I'm keeping up on the cars that Michael Gross is buying up until 2006. I don't know what he owns now. Somebody needs to do it. Yes. Bert's Elephant gun Yes. Is an gauge darn shotgun and it was rented from a private collector to use in the film and it fired dummy cartridges that were custom made from solid brass rod stock. Now this is that gun, like I wanna shoot that gun Billy very badly. Yes. I would love to shoot that gun. I remember seeing that gun when I was a kid and I was like, I just thought to my, they make guns that big, right? Do they really make guns that big? Like I had no idea. Yes. So, and then like I find out, like my grandpa's got like a big old gun like that, like later on. He has this gun safe and inside the gun safe is this giant ass shotgun of insanity. I still haven't shot that podcast. I have not shot that. What, what'd you say? Right. We should get it. We should shoot it for the podcast. We sh we should, yes. I gotta get it like it's old and I have to get it like cleaned and make sure that it still works because I don't wanna put a couple of, uh, cartridges in there and blow. Wouldn't have it blow up in my, my face. That wouldn't be fun. Yeah, that wouldn't be, that wouldn't be good. The town of perfection, as I said before, has a population of 14. Those inhabitants of the town include Edgar Dies, old Fred, Nancy and Mindy. Stern good. Miguel, Walter Chang, Val McKee, Earl Bassett, Burton, Heather Gummer, nester Cumming. Him and Melvin and his parents. Many often mistakenly forget to list Melvin's parents and instead replace them with the doctor and his wife, but the doctor and his wife would not count as they had just moved to perfection and weren't yet official residents. Okay? Melvin. Melvin. That kid. Dude, that kid was in every show. He's going nowhere fast like Melvin, right? Is like, man, what a horrible place to grow up when you're a teen. Yep. And all he's doing is, you know, getting in trouble, having giant worms chase him everywhere. Having Bert threatened to shove his basketball where the sun don't shine. All that. Yes, yes. Too much Melvin on the brain. Too much Melvin on the brain. Such a, he's like the town jester. He sure is. Composer Robert Folk was brought in at the very last minute to rescore the film. And this was because the original score composed by Credit Composer, Ernest Truss, was lacking the punch that it needed for the film. Musically. You were talking about the music earlier. Mm-hmm. and here's a little background on that. Music. Well, 30 minutes they say punch, but no, 30 minutes or more was written by folk and he goes uncredited in the film's credits, but Huh? Both scores are used in the film. True scores. Okay. Is more Western and country-like with the usage of the guitars and the harmonicas and is mostly used in the softer moments of the movie where folks music is the more epic stuff, the more use of trumpets and violins and big instruments and those are used, uh, in like the climax in the intense moments of the movie. Hmm hmm. Billy's face is very confused right now. We'll say that that's a more epic score for 1990. Okay. For the time that was an epic score. Okay. Yeah. The town of lost my notes whoops. The writers of the film were inspired to create the town of perfection after visiting the real life community of Darwin, California during a film shoot for the US Navy. Darwin is a Barron X mining community with only 32 residents that can only be accessed by a single dirt road nearly 40 miles away from the next town over. Also similar to perfection, the town has no school, no police station, and no hospital, and is completely cut off from the internet. There's no cell phone towers and no cable television. Darwin has been the subject of several documentaries and filming for tremors. Reshoots actually took place there. Crazy. I would hate to live in that town. I'm thinking about moving now. Oh, are you like there? Yes. So, so, so much fun. Okay. Crazy Billy. Crazy. I'm gonna just, I don't even know what, say tremors every day like you. Every day I'll just reenact tremors from a different person's perspective, like the peanut butter and jelly sandwich. You need to sh film yourself moving To Darwin, California, and, and you need to document your move. Yep. Um, I just dunno how I'm gonna convince my family that we need to move there. You can do it. You can do it. Nice. All right. The working titles of tremors were beneath perfection, dead silence, and Land Sharks. Then they finally ended up on tremors, but land sharks would've worked. I don't land Sharks. Seems like it would've been like one of those, uh, asylum type movies, you know, right beneath perfection is kind of cool too. Beneath perfection. Yeah, that works too. Yeah. I like that. It's our new band's name. Yes. To simulate one of the graves attacking the horse, there were fake tentacles that were wrapped around the horse, and the movement of the tentacles was achieved by an inner mechanism, which was operated manually. The horse was not at all frightened by this, so don't worry. People that love horses, the horse would lay down, which he was trained to do, uh, and collapsible stirs were used to protect the horse, and a veterinarian sedated the horse briefly. And an American Humane Associate representative was present at all times, a prop of a fake horse flank was used where the monster bites into the horse, so Oh good. No horses were harmed in the making of this film. Just wanted to let you know. That helps the license plate for Bert and Heather Gum's vehicle reads Uzi for you, the bumper sticker on their vehicle's right front bumper reads free Afghanistan, so there's that. Yeah, I do want the license plate Uzi for you though. I wonder if someone has that available. I have to see if that is available. If we were making t-shirts, that would probably be the first one we would do. Oh. For reals, easy for you. But for reals though, I think I'm gonna check and see if that license plate's available. That would work on your Jeep. Dude, that would be really cool. I'm gonna try and, uh, I'm gonna try and do that and then I'll take a video and upload it on YouTube and all of our social media channels. Ha ha ha. Valon Earl's pickup truck is a 1963 Jeep Gladiator thrift side. I like their truck. I want it, I like their truck too. The very first scene filmed on day one of shooting is the moment toward the beginning where Val says, that means it's a girl and drives off road to meet. On the first take, the truck hit a dirt mound too hard and caused damage to the vehicle's front end. Also stalling it out in the process, it took several hours to get the vehicle up and running again for a second take. And it's that second take that was used in the film. Isn't that exciting? That's exciting. The scene showing the truck couldn't show the full front side until it was fixed. Later in production. Man, filmmaking problems. Gotta be careful out there. It was intense. Gotta be careful out there, Man, that dirt mound really got me. I didn't, well, I didn't see it coming. It wa it wasn't any grab, it was a dirt mound that, that took that truck out. that took the team down. Ah, the film's poster and v h s cover art was designed by Universal Studios and originally planned on featuring a grab in full view. However, the studio or the production company that made the film stamping entertainment believed tremors would be better received if audiences did not see the creatures until they were revealed to the, the characters in the movie. Thankfully, universal agreed, but later decided to show a closeup of a grab Boy technical with the sharp, with the sharp teeth. I, I like the idea of not showing them, but I mean, when the people are paying for the film, you really can't tell them no. Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. At the same time it's like, you know, like, uh, movie poster for Jaws. Right Shows the Monster right front center. It's like the main selling point of the film. So I kind of get what the studio's going for. Also, universal Studios also did Jaws, so they're just kind of like going with what worked. I guess they wanted to do something. Oh man, they need to put in a Tremors attraction in in, don't say that. Rev Universal because now they need to, they've gotta get rid of the Water World Show, which I can't believe is still there. I can't believe the Water World Show is still there and they need to put up a tremor show. I kind of missed the Miami Vice Action. Spectacular. I won't lie. That was so fun. If you're gonna, if you're gonna get rid of Miami Vice, you gotta get rid of Water World ii or you gotta keep'em both. There's no other way. I wonder what they'll replace when they do get rid of Water World. What movie? Mm, what movie? We'll replace that. It's gonna be interesting to see. One day it's gonna happen. One day it's gonna happen. Yeah. Today it's not that day. I wish they would do classic universal monsters in a show. Yeah, that'd be awesome. But they saved that every year for Halloween Horror night. Okay. Anyway, yes. Back to tremors. We're almost done. We're almost through this guys. All right. When Nester says if one of the grabs comes near him, he'll just hit it with a five pound pick ax. In response, Val states he wouldn't be able to see them coming. Ironically, later, when a OID is about to eat, Rhonda Val injures it with a five pound pick ax, the poundage is very necessary. You need the five pound pick ax. Yeah. In fact, four. Four is not enough. Six is too much. When I buy it, my very first pickax, it's going to be a five pound pickax. Good for you. I don't know when that is going to be. I don't know when I will tomorrow need to own a pickax, but when that day comes, when that day comes, I will get a five pound pick X All right. Good for you. Yes. In the original script, there's an opening scene, uh, showing more of Edgar Deans and old Fred in it. The two are shown as close friends who meet up to trade live. but Dean's prize donkey is eaten by a grab boy setting up why Edgar climbed the electric tower. In the beginning of the film, this scene was actually filmed, but the studio thought it was too boring and the filmmakers thought it revealed the mystery of the grab too soon. But it kind of makes sense to put it in there, but at the same time mm-hmm. it, it, I could, it could've been good. Yeah. But at the same time, I do kinda like the mystery of just driving up onto the electrical tower and seeing a guy up there That's true is creepy. So it, it could work both ways in the end. I like how it is. I think that is, I think it worked out. It, it gives, this makes things more mysterious. Yeah. Cuz it had to be something freaky to get'em go all the way up there. Yes. In the movie Bert gives Melvin an empty revolver, but Bert still checks to see that the gun is unloaded upon its return, which follows firearm safety rules. Always remember, make sure to check your guns loaded. Learn your rules. You've got to learn your rules. If you don't, you'll be eaten in your sleep. We're moving on now. Uh, me. Parts we're purchased from a butcher and they were used to simulate the mutilated sheep. So that was real meat. Real meat, meat from a butcher. So good for them, animals were harmed in the making of this movie. Kind of, I guess, I mean, they were pre harmed, I guess. Pre harmed. Yeah, they were pre harmed before the movie. They just went to the local butcher guys. It's all good. Test audiences loved the movie, and at the end they would repeatedly chant at these test screenings. Kisser, kisser, kisser. So the studio went ahead and paid for a quick reshoot featuring Valentine and Rhonda kissing, and that's why they kiss at the end. Honestly, the two did not match at all. Nope. I think it was just the stress of being in that situation. The fact that they got together at the end and kissed and all that stuff made absolutely no sense. none, but Sure. But should that give it, give it to why not Give it to the audience. Audiences wanted it. Sure. Give it to'em. Why not? But the movie. But the problem is movie is just as fine, just as good and just as fun. Exactly. Without, without having it, the two getting together, they were just so mismatched and never in a million years when I'd see these two people from two completely different worlds getting together. I, I imagine that relationship only lasted about a half hour. Uh, 20 minutes. We'll give it 20. Okay. 20. The pole vaulting scene that I mm-hmm. was discussing earlier that I love so much when I was a kid, uh, was written to take advantage of the landscape's, numerous boulders, but on location, they realized they weren't a workable distance apart, so they had to make fake hollow rocks. And aside from one windy day that sent them blowing across the desert, worked out pretty good. Yeah. There we go. You couldn't even tell, you couldn't even tell, couldn't tell that there were hollow rocks out there. Good job effects team. Good job. Gotta love the effects prop team, they, they need more. In each of the rock paper scissor contests that they have. Mm-hmm. Earl always throws up scissors every time. Every time, every time. And so that's why I figured that, uh, Val's character knew that and he would only d lose when he didn't mind doing the actual chore, like climbing up to get Edgar and all that. He didn't want to make, uh, he didn't wanna make Burt go all the way up there, so he did it himself. So yeah. See, sees deeper meanings in things. Yes. Reba McIntire during that amazing basement scene, which I want to talk about, right. Mm-hmm. I love that basement scene where that grab comes crashing through the wall, the brick wall, and it's just screaming and growling and sending its tentacle monsters out of ITSs mouth. And you've got freaking Burt and his wife. And that they make that reveal of those that they're awesome arsenal of weapons behind them, and they just start loading up the guns. They're firing at it. Ah, what a beautiful, beautiful scene that was. That was so much fun. One of my favorite parts of the movie, hands down, just always makes me happy, always puts a smile on my face to watch those two blow that grab away in the most brutal way possible, dude. And. I know this might be a little thing, but like when Nancy's firing down range, there's one point where she's got two pistols in her hands and usually for like, effect to make it look cool. People go bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Like opposite each other. Yeah, yeah. No, it, she treated like a real life situation. She was pulling both triggers at the same time, thrown down all the animals she could. I loved it so much. Heck yeah. They just did. It's like, I need, I need ammo. And Bert throws her ammo. She's like, locks load starts firing again. And then that's where Bert gets the big old freaking elephant gun thing and just starts blowing it away, man, that is so much fun. Anyway, anyway, uh, MCARA was worried that shooting those guns in the basement might be bad for her hearing, so they doubled down on air protection. Perfect. Perfect. Dude, there was no, there was no way she was getting eaten in this film. No way. She and Burt were on point. but that little bit of, uh, trivia, right? There was just an excuse to talk about the awesome scene. Awesome scene. Absolutely, man. Yes. Okay. If you go to the movie museum in Lo Pine, California, because there's a movie museum in Lone Pine, California. I'm looking up Lone Pine, California right now. They can point out, they can point out some of the filling locations, Wow. My question is, do they have props to see in this movie museum, or is it just like, Hey, we're at this movie museum and where are the locations that they film tremors? Because I gotta go see those places. Okay, so it is, Northeast of Bakersfield. Okay, so we're going All right, I'll see you there, dude. It's right near where we used to go camping in high school. Really? Yeah. Have we been the lone time? Nearly camping trips, possibly. Oh my gosh. We were there. We didn't even know it. We were at the filming location of tremors and we didn't even know it. Ah, it's the worst. Dang it. Ugh. Oh, well. How so? Goes it next time? Next time I'm up in Lo Pine, California. Yep. And that's it everybody. That is our discussion on tremors. Thank you for listening to us talk about this movie. I'm sure it was so enjoyable. I'm sure everybody had such a wonderful time, learning these little bits of trivia about this classic 1990 film that you, uh, you need to watch cuz it's just, you do, it's just an entertaining, fun, sci-fi horror adventure movie with some great lovable characters that you just enjoy watching. Just fun, just a great little movie. Great fun. Before we end this, Billy, yes. I know I took a quote from you earlier, but what is your name? Tim, what is your quest to find a holy grail? What is our favorite color? Blue. No green. I don't know why we just did that, but we did it. Uh, what's your favorite quote, Billy? Okay, so I don't have a quote anymore. Oh. But I am going to tell you all of the sequels, oh, go for it. That have come out. Yes, please. After tremors run through the sweet, so we've got tremors. We've got tremors, two aftershocks, then we go to tremors three, which is back to perfection. Then you've got the short-lived, uh, 2003 Tremors TV series, followed by tremors for the legend begins. Ooh, yes. Yes. Oh, and it just gets better from there. From there we go to Tremors five, which we will call blood lines followed shortly after by tremors. Six six, a cold day in hell, and then rounded out with what has to be my favorite title of the whole series. Tremors Shriek Island. That's right. It's. Water. It's got islands, it's got Napoleon Dynamite, everything you would need for a working horror film. what about you bud? Do you get a quote that you like? Well, I said my favorite quote earlier, which was broken the goddamn rec room, didn't you? You bastard. That's like my, that's definitely my favorite, but, but my close second to that is this little conversation. Um, what kind of fuse is that? Cannon fuse. What the hell do he use it for? My cannon I love that there is because why wouldn't he have a cannon? Why wouldn't he have a cannon? Of course. Yeah. So, all right folks. We did it. We did it. We made it through tremors. Yes, please join us next time when we talk about the next movie, we talk about. In the meantime, yes, make sure to visit geek tyrant.com for all your movie entertainment, tv, video game, comic book needs. Lots of stuff going on. Thank you so much. Craziness. Yeah. Going on much in the entertainment world right now. So if you wanna keep up to date on that, Tyran is the place to be, the place to hang out. Other than that, this podcast is the place to hang out. It's the place to be. 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