Bill Murray's SCROOGED is a Hilarious Christmas Miracle

In Episode 34 of Secret Level, we celebrate the holidays by talking about the hilarious classic 1988 Bill Murray Christmas movie Scrooged, which was directed by Richard Donner. It's pretty crazy that an adaptation of A Christmas Carol like this actually exists, so it's kind of a Christmas miracle and it's easily one of our favorite movies. We share some behind-the-scenes details on the making of the film including how Murray got involved with the movie, how he and Donner didn't see eye to eye, and we offer some silly commentary. We hope you enjoy this episode! 

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Dude. Are you ready for this? Dude? I am so ready for this. Like, so here's the thing. A lot of people have their favorite Christmas movies. Sure, sure. It is Christmas time. And this Christmas time is, this is our Christmas episode. Right. And there's, there's the, the classics, there's, you know, uh, a Christmas story. It's a wonderful live. Yep, yep. You know, miracle on 34th Street, all that stuff. Die hard, but die hard. Gremlins. Gremlins. Yep. Yeah. There's, there, there's a lot. But I feel like though the Christmas movie we were doing today is one of the most, I don't think it gets enough love. I think it needs a lot more love. You don't think it gets enough love? No, cuz I don't hear people going, Hey, I watched Scrooge this weekend. I hear I, I watched a Christmas story, or I watch you. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. That's, you're right. You're right. It's never, it's never somebody's in somebody's top. But for me, every year I love screeched. Yeah. It's fantastic. All right. You know, love it that I'm like watching the movie again in that opening scene and you've got that music that Danny Elfman music and I'm just like, man, this feels like automatically like a Tim Burt movie. it. You know what? And that's the thing is that it took me, A little bit to realize how much talent is in this movie. So much, so much, so much. But, but before we go on, yes. Before we go on. Yes. Hello everybody. My name is Joey Parr, editor-in-chief of geek tyrant.com. And welcome to Secret Level. Joining me today is the luxurious, this been ous, the blueberry, Billy It's tough being a luxurious blueberry, but I think I pull it off quite well. Oh good. Yes. That was probably one of the better openings you've ever done. It was, I truly, it was one of those just weird ones. I just pulled it outta my butt. I love it. And, uh, we're going with it. Yep, in this episode we are going to talk about the classic, but according to Billy Underrated, underappreciated, underappreciated is the best Christmas film Scrooged starring Bill Murray. Yeah. I, I can't wait. Um, well, we don't have to wait. You can jump right into it. Yeah. Let's, let's just do this. Go, oh, wait, do do, first of all, how was your week, sir? Oh, man. It's been, it's been a busy week leading up to Christmas. It's just been Christmas shopping. It has been insanity. Mm-hmm. it has been, spending lots of money, money that I don't have even better, getting into debt, I guess is the best way to, uh, to put that right. You know? Oh, absolutely. So, just, just prepping for Christmas, trying to get into the Christmas spirit, like I love this time of year. Okay. I am recording. Utah right now. Yes, you are. There's a, you mean, you may hear a bit of an echo on this podcast because I am, uh, recording this in a large stadium in front of thousands upon thousands of people. Say hello, everybody. Hello. We love you. We love your wi, we love your website at your podcast. It's so good. Oh, they're so nice. They're amazing. Thank you. Thank you very much everybody. We appreciate those are the nicest people ever and I love how they get quiet just when we need them to. Yes. Fantastic. I command the crowds that, that well, yeah. Oh man. Watch us watch this. Yes, yes. All right. You can all shut up now. Yeah, be quiet. We've got a podcast. Oh man. Anyway, yes. So, yeah, so, uh, so I've been doing that. I, watched Avatar the Way of Water. I've actually seen it twice so far, and I love it. I think it's a great movie. I am. All right. I have no problems with it. I think James Cameron has done another wonderful job making another wonderful sequel. He is the, the Master of Sequels, and I think this movie was superior to the first one. Superior. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's what I, that's what I think. Have you seen it yet? I have not seen it yet. How, how is that possible? Uh, um, it's the lack of babysitters right now. Oh. In the, the Christmas season. Dang, babysitters. Yeah. People are either sick or they're gone, so, oh, no. Um, I know my kids can't sit through a three hour movie. I know they're gonna have. Yeah, I guess so. Just take them. But you know, they've got two weeks off. Maybe we'll just go. You should. It's fun. I, I think it'll capture their attention. You think so? You think kids will like it? Cuz I remember the first one kids were getting real crazy and loud. But you gotta remember this one's different because it has kids in it. Hmm, that's true. There are kid, uh, nav people, which is fun in this. So I like it. I think the kids might relate to it even more than the first one. Well, I hope so. Um, but yeah, we haven't seen it yet. We've just been waiting for the kids to get outta school for the Christmas break and we're gonna do some adventures and I think that's probably gonna be one of'em. Cool. I'm sure a lot of people out there listening to this have seen it. I know not everyone likes it, which is fine. That's cool. If you don't, if you don't like the avatar, the way of water, then you don't like it. It's all right. Right. We're not, we're not force it. I enjoyed it. I, I thought it was great. I thought it was visually insane. Like it is the most visually beautiful CGI film that's ever been made. Nice. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. The, the technology is just ramped up to 11 on it and, okay. And I, I wish Marvel would kind of look at this and be like, Man, like if we did special effects, this good. Could you imagine? Mm-hmm. how much better our movies would be. Right? Because right now they're effects. They've got, they've got so much going on that they just don't have the time to like, do all the effects that, you know, need to be done. Like absolutely put in the time and effort and there, and it's, it's all rushed. Everything needs to like happen in a timeframe where Cameron took us time with it. And I'm not saying we need to wait like 13 years between every Marvel movie, but what I am saying is like, Hey, let's go back to just like two movies a year, right? Like, I mean, that's fine. I'd be fine with that as long as the quality is better. Like mm-hmm. awesome, but they are part of the Disney machine now, and, uh, that's, they just want to keep pumping out as many as they possibly can. So, and with that comes, flaws. More flaws. Yeah, absolutely. So, what are you gonna do? It's okay though. It's okay If you haven't seen Avatar yet. Go see it. It's great. From what I hear, multiple people, uh, uh, at work have seen it and they see if you're not gonna see it in 3d, don't bother. Don't bother. Yeah, I agree. I agree. It has to be seen on the big screen in 3D to get the full effect. Yeah. Uh, luckily we have a Dolby screen just down the way. I think I'm gonna take the kids down there and we're gonna watch it. Yeah. Take advantage of that. Yeah. Heck yeah. So that's me. That's mine. That's mine. Wonderful. What about you? Uh, well, as far as spending too much money, yes. I'm in that boat also. Sure. Who isn't right? Who isn't at this time of year, uh, people who don't celebrate Christmas or they have lots and lots of money, they're super rich or they have lots of money. Uh, we should be super rich. Like I think Elon Musk is fine. Mm. Maybe, maybe he did spend 44 billion on Twitter, but I'm sure he is. Got enough money left over to, uh, Do whatever else he wants to do. I think so, Um, but yeah. But I watched, um, the show. I don't know if you have watched the show yet or not. I don't know if we've talked about it. Have you ever watched a show? Uh, resident Alien? I have, uh, I watched the first season of it so far. Okay. That's where I was at. I we binged the second season. Okay. And it's, that's the tu show, correct. Oh, it's probably the best thing he's ever done. Yeah, for sure. I love that show. We binged it. It's still in my top 10 favorite new shows that have come out in the last couple years. Okay. Um, I'm really excited for season three, but I don't see any updates on it. But yes, it was a lot of fun. Uh, we spent a lot of time going between that and Wednesday, the, the TV series. Oh yeah. I loved Wednesday. So good. I just, uh, my recently goodness finished that one too. Oh, we haven't finished it yet. We're almost there. Oh, really? Um, yes, tomorrow is gonna be an all day. Wednesday binge nice with, with the kids cuz they love it. Like every Yeah. Everybody loves it. That is on my list of favorite shows of 2022. Yeah. AB absolutely. It's, it's captivating. The acting is fantastic. I'm almost finished with my top 20 list of, I can't wait. My favorite things this year. So that's, uh, a mix of both film and tv. Yes. Um, you should come up with a top 10 20 list too, Billy. Oh. And we can talk about it in our next podcast. Yeah, yeah, we could do that. Um, I am anxiously awaiting, uh, the opportunity to see the whale. I kind of wanna see that a little bit more than Avatar. Oh, okay. Yeah, I saw the whale and it, I, I liked the movie. but I loved Brendan Frazier's performance, and that's, that's what everybody is saying. That's the reason why you want to see it, is because his performance is absolutely stunning. Like he is just such a powerful performance. If he doesn't walk away with every award this year, uhhuh, then I don't even know what is going on in Hollywood because I'm well, and I'm pretty sure he will. Like, I'm pretty po I'm, I'm pretty positive that, uh, he's got it in the bag because I hope so. It is the best performance of the year, easily, hands down. Uh, I, I, you and I have both loved Brendan Frazier since Encino man. Like he's been on our Yeah, yeah. Our Top 10 actor list since then. Man, school ties. School ties was fantastic. Great. Oh my good gravy. I mean, and if you haven't watched it, doom Patrol, he's fantastic. Yep. In Doom Patrol. Um, I just think he was so underrated. For so long. I think it's about time that we just give him the Oscar so it makes up for all the past ones that he missed. Yes. He definitely should have won an Oscar for Encino, man. Yes. Oh my goodness. No one could play a caveman like that. No one, no one never. Oh, man. Yeah. So, other than that, we've been watching Christmas movies and, this, I, Jessica hasn't seen this movie in decades, so when she watched it with me Oh, it was, it was a pleasant surprise for her. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And like the cameos, the fact that it's directed by Richard Donner. Yep. You've got Danny Elman doing the music. This was set for success. Like they put every piece in place for a successful movie. They really did. And it's crazy because this was Bill Murray's first starring role in a film. since he did Ghostbusters. Yes. He was at a point where he is actually considering giving up acting. He had done Ghostbusters and then he did a few little side rolls here and there over the years, just like Right. Two or three between Ghostbusters and Scrooged. And he was nervous initially to actually do this role because the whole movie would've been on his shoulders. And up until this point he's always had other people to like play off of, you know what I mean? Right. Yeah. He's always been like, he's been great in all the films before this, but this is like the first real movie that he carried on his should. Kind of by himself, as like the main, main character. Right. But he, um, he also, yeah, but he also, like, he was getting scripts and reading scripts, over the years just to see, but nothing really clicked with him. In fact, he had turned down, roles in Rainman. Big cocktail. Uh, yes. Yes. Billy Cocktail, uh, Now who would he play in cocktail? We'll talk about this later. But yeah, that I read that and I was like, no, uh, he declined to come back for Caddy Shack two. Okay, good, good choice. But he, but he turned that down to appear in this one. So, which is actually def definitely a good choice cuz Catty Shark two flopped at the box office. Yes. Yes. But I mean, yeah, I mean, this was a good role for him to come back in. It showed that he could, I, I can understand where his nervousness was, because he always had like Dan Akroyd or he had, um, yeah, he had, he had these, he had people to bounce off of Exactly. But basically his Saturday night night, his Saturday night Live buds. Yeah, exactly. Um, I mean, he, he was great in Tootsie with Dustin Hoffman, but once again, he's playing off of somebody else. Exactly. Yep. Yep. And during that time when he was like taking all these scripts, he, he gave an interview back in 1989 with Star Log Magazine, in which he said, but when I wanted to work, like after he had taken this kind of break, this hiatus, he was living in Paris, he says, but when I wanted to work, the scripts were just not good. And so, it took a while for him to actually like, Kind of get back in, get back into the groove of things. one of the movies he did in between Ghostbusters and Scrooge was Little Shop of Horrors, and he did that in 1986. But that wasn't a starring role. That was like a cameo, which is one of the funniest cameos ever in any movie, ever, like ever. Like my kids love it when he comes on screen. They think it's hilarious. I don't think they fully understand what it's all about, like why he's acting that way. But they think it's silly that somebody act like that in the dentist's office. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. It's so much fun when talking about taking ons, scrooged, and you. Why it was a hard choice for him. He said Uhhuh. Scrooged was harder than Ghostbusters because I was by myself really. Even though there were a number of people in the movie, they only had cameos. They would st stroll in for a day or two and then split. I was there every day and it was like flunking grade school again and again. But now when he did sign up for the movie, one of the things, one of his stipulations for taking on the rule was that the script needed to be reworked. And so he said, we tore up the script so badly that we had parts of it all over the lawn. Wow. There was a lot. I didn't like to remake the story. We took the romantic element and built that up a little more. It existed in the Scripp's original version, but we had to make more out of it. The family scenes were kind of off, and so we worked on that as well. So they, so he basically came in and the script was kind of one of his, he kind of took the script under his wing, I guess. Right? Well, I mean, okay. I don't, if you haven't seen it, you need to see this, but uh, for those of us who have, it starts off with a bang Yes. With the night the reindeer died. the night the reindeer died. I flipping Fantastic. Which is, which is so funny because it's a fake movie in this. in this, in this movie. It's a fake movie. Within the movie. Right, right. But now we actually have movies like that for real Right. Violent Night. Violent Night. And I was just a bunch of other, other low budget things. I think Violent Night is probably one of the most mainstream though. Right. But it's just cracking up at so funny. It's so funny how like that becomes reality. The night the reindeer died. Right. It was great. Um, so this is something I've been wanting to ask you since we've said that we're gonna do this movie. Okay. So they go through all the previews, yeah. Um, when they pan into Bill Murray's face, right there at that meeting, what's up with him? Looking down to his drawer. Pulling it out. Looking in the mirror, making that face and then closing it. It's one of the strangest scenes ever. I don't even know, but it's funny as heck. Like it is funny. It's very funny. Yeah, I don't know. I just, man, right away I was just like, that shot. Made it into the movie. There's no reason. But it was funny. It was hilarious. But yeah, I love that opening scene and you're like, I remember seeing that when I was younger and I'm like, whoa, what movie are we watching? You know? I was like, this is, this was the cat. This is amazing. Yep. Oh man. Yeah, it was just, it's funny. That's one of the greatest openings to any Christmas movie. It really was One other scene that really quick that I just need to get outta the way cuz it just popped in my head and I don't wanna forget it. Right. Um, when they, they change the day, they're doing their promos spots for Scrooge right? Yes. And, and they show this one and he is like, no, no, no, no. That's not gonna work. It's like a nice happy family trailer. And then they showed this other trailer to just absolutely dark and gritty and just, Yeah, great. It just absolutely bonkers. It shows nothing from the sh the show. Yeah. And I'm like, well, first of all, I, I want to see that version of Scrooge. But then so they release it, and then later on there's this, there's this, uh, point in the film where there's this news article that they bring into, that they bring into him. He is like, you know, this old woman had died because of the promo. They released And when they bring it into him, he like, uh, bill Murray just kind of like sits back and puts his head down and you're like, you're wondering what he's gonna say. And then he is just kind of like, yes, I knew that I was smart in making this promo. We need to run it twice as much now. This is great marketing. Yeah. And then he hands it to his secretary and says, frame this. Yeah. So good. Oh my gosh. Oh man. I loved it so much. Oh boy. it's, it does take the whole scrooge thing to the extreme, but I think, I don't think anybody else could've played it off as well. Cuz it still had the, the, it still had the comedy, it still had the heart. Anybody else doing it, it would've been, yeah. Too much. Yeah. Now this is interesting because Bill Murray and Richard Donner apparently did not enjoy working together on the set of the film, It was not there. They, there was a lot of tension on the set between the two. And Murray talked about this in an interview. With Roger Ebert back in the day and asked him if there if he had any disagreements with, with Richard Donner and Murray Pre Murray replied only a few every single minute of the day. that could have been a really, really great movie. The script was so good. There's maybe one take in the final cut of the film. That's mine. We made it so fast. It was like doing a movie live. He kept telling me to do things louder, louder, louder. And I think he was deaf. So, which is, so here it's funny. Go, go ahead, go ahead. I was just saying it like, I have this issue now, cuz I, this is not the first time we've heard Bill Murray kind of being a diva on a set. Yes. You know what I mean? Oh, totally. And I, I'm starting to think that maybe this is, uh, not an. Richard Donner problem, but maybe a Bill Murray problem, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, Uhhuh at the same time, you can see in Bill Murray's performance that he's always loud And so he says that and you're like, okay. That if he didn't wanna go that loud, then the loudness was obviously coming from Richard Donner. Louder. Louder, So it's like Bill Murray's, like yelling through like 80% of the film. It's true. it's true. Yeah. But Bill Murray also ad lib most of his lines. I can see that. I think, uh, Richard Donner gave an interview about that. Saying he, he described the experience of directing Murray with all the ad libbing and stuff. He says, Uhhuh He said, it's like standing on 42nd Street in Broadway and the lights are out and you're the traffic cop Oh, man. Yeah. I mean, you can tell like when he starts getting on some of his rants in the movie that he's just going for it. And I, I liked it. I, I love it. I think it's really off the cuff and it makes it fun. It it works. And I know Murray might not be completely happy with it, but I, I, I mean, it's an entertaining Christmas movie. It's one of my, it's, it's, it's a, it's a favorite that I watch every year. Right. It's, and, and there's scenes where his face does all the acting, like, the Herman. you know what I mean? Yeah. When he's down in, down in the, the sewer and he finds Herman, like, you can see the change from, you know, Frank, the jerk to Frank. Oh my gosh. My actions are affecting somebody else's life. Yeah. And I thought that was great. Yeah, definitely. While they were filming the movie Uhhuh they, they, they filmed the movie during Christmas in December of 1987 is when they shot it. Okay. And during that time, Richard Donner asked if the production could have Christmas Day off, because, you know, it's Christmas mm-hmm. but. The studio executive said no and insisted that the film should continue shooting on Christmas Day. However, Donner outwitted them and at the end of the day, on December 24th, he fired the entire casting crew Okay? And two days later, on December 26th, he rehired everybody. The break allowed the cast and crew members to spend Christmas with their families. So Don are literally had to straight up fire everyone. you guys are fired, go home and then come back in two days. That's amazing. I don't think you could do that these days. I don't think that would be allowed. How do you even fire a old cast, a crew? And what does the studio say about that? Right. I think maybe they put, um, some firewalls in, in that process now so that you can't get away with it. Yeah, they must have. That's just absolutely bonkers though, right? And, and I loved it. I love it for that I just like to imagine that maybe the studio was like, they allowed it just for that purpose to let him have that day off. Yeah. Let's hope. You know, Donner didn't even, wasn't even really sure he wanted to make the film in the first place because he had reservations about doing, a Christmas carol into a comedy, like a dark comedy like this. It's a thin line, but you have two of the most irreverent writers in the world. You have the most irreverent, humorous since WC Fields. And you say, let's go. There's a thin line you walk, but the line is broken. Hopefully in the end of the picture when you see a man evolve out of a situation. Okay. And I think they did a great job with the story. I, this is, this is one of my favorite adaptations of a Christmas carol. Right. It's so good. It's so fun. It is fun. And, and the thing is, is that it's. It's something that the whole family can enjoy. Um, barring the one nipple scene, I think the rest of it is is really good. You know, uh, I had my seven year old in the room with us. When you watched that scene and it made, did you forget? I totally forgot. Like, cause that scene's so funny to me because of the conversation with the guy. Exactly. So I was thinking, oh, here comes that really funny scene. And I was like, I forgot. It's all about nipples. I forgot. It's all about nipples, It's all about nipples. And my, luckily my son has super tacked cuz he didn't say anything. He just looked at me and raised one eyebrow. Like, what? And I was like, your nipples are showing, her nipples are showing, uh, it's Christmas. It was, it was gonna be my line at the end of the, the, the podcast. But it's. and he is like, I'm sure Charles Dickens would've wanted to have seen those nipples. And then the carpenter goes, you can even barely see them. Nipples said, see, and this guy's really looking And I was like, oh man, I love that. And then I look over and I was like, oh yeah, you're seven Whoops. Yep. Yeah. That nipple scene that was, uh, That's a doozy though, for, for reals, watching it with your kids. Oh yeah. That was, uh, awkward to say the least awkward is the best word for it. Yeah. But yeah. Okay. But I'm just saying, like, and you, you listen to Richard Donner talking about, uh, bill Murray in the scene, and once again, he sounds like he's building him up as far as, you know, what a great talent he is. And then you've got Bill Murray, like, I couldn't stand the dude. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's, it's, it's funny. he does get a little come up and say this way, actors, directors, they're all, they're all kind of weird. Yeah. They all have quirks. Exactly. I gotta come up with a new quote for the end of the show. Yeah, you do. Yeah, I do. Ah, Carol Kane. The best part of this whole movie. Oh my gosh. She is just absolutely wonderful. She plays the ghost of Christmas present, and she is just so funny. And, uh, she talked about working on this film and she was upset because she always had to rough up Bill Murray She was always like punching him, kicking him, smacking him in the face. it was, it's so funny. She just literally just kept beating the cr like abusing, physically abusing Bill Murray. And because of that, like, it actually kind of took a toll on her because, uh, apparently she broke down on set numerous times. crime because she had to keep hitting Bill Murray repeatedly and, and Oh no. And she actually, injured him once, like for pretty bad that actually delayed shooting, so, oh, no. Yeah. So, you know that scene where she grabs Bill Murray's lip and pulls it? Oh, dude, are you so, man, so that looks so painful. Like we were talking about it like, wow. There, like, you can't really fake that. So she, so the little piece of skin that connects your lip to your gum mm-hmm. just sheik to that. Oh, no. And that, and it shut production down for, uh, a few days. Yeah. Oh, wow. So the Bill Murray's gum could heal because dude, she's straight up so she's not tall. And he was significantly taller than her, and she pulled him all the way down to her level with that pull. I was like, there's no faking that, that had to hurt. Yeah. But apparently it really did. Yeah. There was some that was, you know, that was a good little injury. There was another injury as well. And that's when, uh, bill Murray, do you remember I don't, one of my, another one of my favorite scenes is when, bill Murray goes to the elevator and it opens up and goes to Christmas. Futures there, standing there, and he just gets, he like freaks out. Yep. And he gets down on, he's like, go ahead and take me do it. Let's get it over with Right. Well, in that scene he elbows his secretary in the face. Oh no. And that was real Oh. No, that's messed up. Yeah. Poor's. She just got, so in that scene, the actress, woodard Alfred Woodard. Uh, yeah, he clocked her Dang it, bro. Well, and see that's one of the parts that makes it such a classic movie is that you, the slow movement into insanity that he has, like, it starts in the, the restaurant when he starts seeing the eyeball and the guy on fire on that. And then, yeah, that freak out at the elevator, man. I was like, man, yeah. He only, he could pull that off. That level of crazy. Actually, during the restaurant scene you were just talking about there was another accident that happened. Oh, no. during the scene when. Uh, bill Murray is on his way out of the restaurant. Right. After splashing the waiter with water, it wet the ground on the stairs and that caused Bill Marie to lose his footing and, and slip. That was that. So that wasn't scripted. That just happened. Oh, okay. Yeah. That was all like just, just, uh, I guess a happy accident. Well, yeah, cuz that yeah. Just adds to the craziness of the whole scene. Exactly. Yeah. That was fantastic. Uh, that whole scene is great. The way he is yelling at him, it's, it was, ah, I wanna talk about that, but I know we got more stuff to talk about. You can talk about whatever you want, bill. It's our podcast. We can talk What? Oh, that's whatever we want. We have no boss. We can do what we want. We can do what we want. Yeah. Mm. So is that it for the accidents that happened on the uh, yeah, those are the accidents. Lots of accidents. Lots of people got hurt. This was a cursed movie. Almost as bad as The Omen or The Exorcist, Scrooged Poltergeist. Scrooged. The Cursed of All Cursed of movies. Oh man. Uh, bill Murray, all of his, uh, acting brothers were in the film. Oh, cool. John Murray, Joel Murray, and Brian Doyle. Murray all appeared in the movie. And John, John Murray is the one that played his onscreen brother. Okay. Yeah. Here's the thing, they all sound like each other. I know. I mean, Brian has that more gravelly voice Yep. Than everybody, but yeah. They all sound like each other. Yeah. So Joel plays one of the guests at John's party. Mm-hmm. and Brian plays, uh, bill Murray's on-screen. Father. Yes. So the butcher, the butcher brings home five pounds of veal for his son on Christmas. Some of them, but I'm a true, true train. And then some of them have also appeared in several other films over the years, including Cady Shack, Ghostbusters Two Groundhog Days, and others. So, yeah, he, he likes having his brothers in his movies with him. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Oh, I forgot to bring this up earlier when you were talking about, oh, what's that? When you were talking about the nipples? Um, okay. Here come the nipples again. Jack McGee adlibbed his line when he says, you can hardly see them. Nipples, That was all ad lib See? And he's really trying to see'em. I love that dude. It's fantastic. That's so funny. On the Frisbee show. Okay. When Bill Murray's character, Frank was in the dog suit, there is a tree on set with a heart engraving. Mm-hmm. And then that heart, it says, Dick loves Lauren. Referring to director Richard Donner and his wife slash producer Lauren Cheryl Donner. Oh, okay. That's cool. Yeah. Kind of a little thing there. Oh, and also back to the waiter. Mm-hmm. that whole thing where he slipped and fell. I forgot to bring this up cuz it got switched up in my notes, but I'm gonna talk about it right now. When Frank throws the water on the waiter, That he sees is on fire. He says, I'm sorry. You know, I thought you were Richard Pryor. Now this line of dialogue, this is a reference to an event in Pryor's life when while just going all out crazy free basing cocaine Mm-hmm. Richard Pryor accidentally set himself on fire and ran down a busy street in Los Angeles. Yeah, I remember that. And so this line is a reference to that. Yes. Comedians were crazy in the eighties. Ah yeah. Richard Pryor kind of took the cake on that one. I still love Richard Pryer. Dude, we have to do an episode just on Richard Pryor just to talk about Richard Pryor. Yeah. I love it. Let's do it. He's so funny, so funny. Uh, we can't say half the words that he says from his comedy specials, but we could talk about his movies. When the Ghost of Christmas Present first appears of the movie, she says to Frank, I'm a little muddled. This is a direct quote from Glenda, the Good Witch in the Wizard of Oz when she meets Dorothy in Munchkin Land. Yeah. And she's kind of wearing the good witch kinda outfit in that situation, so that's kind of fun. Yes. Now, there's also a ton of footage that was shot for this film that actually didn't make it into the final cut. And according to Bill Murray, a lot of this stuff, a lot of footage ended up on the cutting room. Um, when talking to Star Log back in the eighties, he said, we shot a big, long, sloppy movie. There's a great deal of material that didn't even end up in the film. It just didn't work. You tend to forget what was wrong. It's hard. I just figured that anyone who's good could step into this part and have a lot of fun with it. It's sort of a wicked character. The idea of making a funny Scrooge was an inspired touch. That's what was appealing to me about it. I'd love to see like, some of those scenes. I'm sure with all the ad libs that he did, it would've been amazing. Some of those clips that were cut out would boom. Amazing. Dude. I would like to see just the cut of the film with just Bill Murray's ad libs. I think it would be amazing. I actually just did a quick little search, uh, to see if there was anything on there, like, and I couldn't really find anything. I found a couple little videos, but nothing substantial. I'll have to watch some of these and see if there's actually anything on there, but just one of them is like an interview with Danny Elman, so I don't even know, maybe they just show a delete a clip in this interview or something like that. I have no idea. Ah, let's comb through it a little bit more. Yeah, I didn't even think of to look. Yeah, there's not much there though from, from my first initial look, but huh. Oh, it's interesting. Yeah. I would've loved to see Murray's ad libs on this. I mean, he like already, he adlib like almost all of the movie Anyway, so we're seeing the ad lib. Right. We're seeing the best takes. Yeah, we're seeing it anyway, so, but I'd still like to see how crazy he went in some scenes. Right, exactly. Just by the energy that he was putting out throughout that movie. It would've been fun to see what he was doing. Speaking of energy, dude. Uhhuh Let's talk about, um, Bobcat Gold Weight, because he was absolutely hilarious in this movie. He is so funny. Whoa. And I love, he's just this timid little man. In the beginning. Yes. In the beginning. And then at the end, he is just on a rampage of, I'm gonna, you know, it, he, it, it turns into this Loony Tunes cartoon at the end. Where he is basically Elmer fud. Right. And Bill Murray is Bug's Bunny and he is just trying to kill him. Absolutely. And I love that about it. Uh, it was so funny cuz not only, and and that's very evident from the lines of dialogue during that. Oh, absolutely. Because he kept quoting Looney Tunes and Laughing so funny. I just, I really enjoyed his performance in this. Yeah. He was so funny back in the day. Like, I love the movie. I love the characters he played in the movies in the eighties. Oh yeah. I mean, you, you had, um, police academy, you had this, hot to trot. I actually really liked that movie. Uh, where he owned a horse that talked hot to Trot Hot to trot the blast for the past. That's one I have not seen in a very long time. I, I have not either. But I actually ran into Bobcat at a sushi joint. Um, a float Sushi in Pasadena. R I p. He was there. Yeah. That's outta business now. Went outta business during Covid, but that's like, that was our sushi spot and we saw him there once and that was kind of cool. Yeah. Uh, I get sad when I think of a float. Sushi. They had the best sushi best and now it's gone. The best. The best. Jerry the best. Yes. I knew that was gonna get into the podcast at some point. Ah. Just wait till we get to our Seinfeld phase. It's gonna be crazy. All right, let's get back into it. the silent character in the movie, the, the young kid that at the very end, like he just doesn't speak throughout the whole movie. He's the son of Bill Murray's secretary. And, uh, it's at the very end of the movie. Mm-hmm. after Bill Murray gives this like, big speech about Christmas and like, why are you watching TV on Christmas Eve? You should be spending time with your families, blah, blah, blah. And he just goes off and just does this great incredibly funny rant. Uh, the little kid, and his name was Calvin Cooley. He looks up at him and he says, God bless us everyone. Yep. And, and it is, it's very sweet moment. Yes. And, and this is one of the things that's like, you know, not only is the movie funny, but it also has heart because you're watching these kids and it's this very sincere, very emotional moment. And I just, it, you know, even watching it again, you kind of got, oh, admit I got choked up a little bit. Right. Well test the season to, to, to be emotional. So, Before we watched it, I told Jessica, I was like, Hey, this movie gets me sometimes Like, it'll, it'll take me to a place. Because with the comedy, they hit some really dark points. Yes. In this movie, like some really hard hitting points that, you know, like his dad, how his dad treated him, how dude, he had the perfect girl. Yes. Claire. Yes. In this movie, the Perfect Girl. It's, it's so heartbreaking to go back to his past and to see him just ruin everything. Right? Like Karen Allen plays this character perfectly. Yes, I love her in this movie, but halfway through it, I'm like, man, he did not deserve her the way she acts and the way she is as a person in this movie, dude, even after he's kind of redeemed, at the end, you're just like, don't go back to He's such a jerk. such a jerk. But. The one scene that gets me the most, and I I think we've already talked about it a little bit, is when he finds Herman down in the sewer, the, the homeless guy. Yes. That's it. Like specifically asks, Hey, do you got$2 so I can get some heat? Yes. Tonight. And then he finds him hours later frozen. And it's like, that's a dark turn of events in this comedy. Like they, they went there, they didn't hold back. I thought that was kind of necessary for the whole thing. Yeah, no, you have to have that heart. You ha it, it, it balanced, humor, emotion, drama. Um, it, it, it had a good balance of all of those things. I mean, yes, first and foremost, this is a comedy, but there are those moments that just, you know, grab your heart and like squeeze it a little bit. Right. Yeah. But anyway, with the kid, Calvin Cooley, he is named after, Calvin Coolidge, who was also known as a man of few words. So there's that. That's all right. Named after a president. Good for him. Oh man. in the film, Preston tells Frank that in America there are 27 million cats, 48 million dogs, and then says quite seriously that the I B C, which is the network that he works for, needs to start gearing programming towards those. as of 2015. There are several dog and cat specific channels that supply dedicated pet programming based on scientific studies of what interests them. So, so yes, there is programming for your pets. And if you didn't know this, it exists for real. This was just a joke in the movie in the eighties. This was just like, ha ha. Yeah. But now it's like, now it's a real thing. It's real. Yeah. Now if my dog starts watching tv, I'm gonna expect him to at least pitch in a little bit. Uh, clean some, pay some bills. If you're gonna watch my tv, I already feed you and clean up after you. You need to help. Yes. the Ghost of Christmas Pass Cab. Mm-hmm. belongs to the Bell Cab Company, and Bell is the name of Scrooge's. First Love in the Charles Dickens classic novel. Oh yeah. It's a little, little callback there. A little nod to the, the classic. Now here's one you're gonna like. Mm-hmm. you ready for this? Yes. The sling mounted g e m 1 34 Mini Gun that was used by Lee Majors in the beginning of the movie. Mm-hmm. That was the same stage prop that was used by Jesse Ventura in Predator in 1987. I ain't got time to bleed I ain't got time to bleed. That's awesome. And that's my quote for this movie, We're quoting which we need to do that one because pray was fantastic. Yes. And there's so many links between that and that, but we'll talk about that later. Yes. And it all leads up to Scrooge playing the screw jets in the live television broadcast. Were the solid gold dancers. Well, you remember in a Christmas Carol when they talk about the screw jets Yes. In it, right? Yeah. Okay, good. Yes. Good, good, good. So their American television show had been canceled by the time this movie debuted. So they used to be big. They were like Uhhuh. The solid gold dancers were like a big thing. Right. And then when this movie came out, they weren't, yeah, they were, they were already done for, they were canceled. That's awful. I hate that. Okay, here's, here's the fun one. Scrooge was the first of two consecutive ghost comedies that Bill Murray made over the course of two years. He's starting Ghostbusters two in 1989, the year after this one. Mm-hmm. Scrooge was marketed with references to Ghostbusters, which had been a huge success earlier, right? Mm-hmm. So the US tagline for Scrooge, one of the taglines was Bill Maria's back among the ghosts, only this time it's three against one Oh, that's clever. Yeah. So they kinda had a little fun. Good for them Some, some fun marketing Oh man. And we talk about Danny Elman's score in this movie. Yeah. It wasn't even released until 2011. What? Yeah. The album, which was only limited to just 3000 copies, contained a total of 34 tracks, not all of which are included in the film. The final track is a bonus track that was created for Trading Places in 1983. Weird. Isn't that weird? Yeah, How did this, why did they not release it? I don't know. Did they not release movie scores back then? Nah, they did. They did. Cuz I had Top Gun. Yeah. I had, I don't know. Not sure why that every was cop. That's not sure why that was the case. Okay. It's weird. I don't like it, but at least we can get it now. You can just get it on Spotify right now. Right now. Listen to it all day, all night, every day. Never stop. Yeah. A constant loop. In the movie, there is that scene where they're doing this trivia game. Sure. You remember that? I, I do, yes. And one of the questions was, what was the name of the boat on Gilligans Island? And everyone was having a hard time trying to figure out that it was the u s s Minnow. Yes. Now Richard Donner worked on Gilligans Island, and so that was just kind of a little tribute. Oh, nice. That's cool. To that thought, that was kind of fun. I, I totally forgot that Richard Donner was involved with Gilligans Island. I used to watch Gilligans Island all the time when I was a kid, like reruns of it all the time. And now you never see it anywhere. Never. Um, I'm gonna make that my mission cuz Yeah. I used to love Gilligan's Island. Yeah, me too. It was like such a great show, man. What happened? We need more Gilligan's Island in our lives. We do, we do. We need some of that classic comedy anyway. The excitement over a VCR is a Christmas present. May seem odd today. Yeah. You know, it's a vcr. No one uses VCRs anymore, but if you can get one, it's really cool. Yeah. But when this film was release, Mm-hmm. A typical VCR would cost someone between 500 and$1,500. In today's money, that would be about 1000 to$3,000 the people were spending on a VCR back then. That's bullshit Isn't that? Isn't that insane? Oh man. I mean, it was top-notch technology right there. Yeah, it was. Geez. You get like a freaking laptop computer for that. Like all decked out. That's insane. So crazy. I wonder if it would cost about the same now that five to$1,500 for a working one. When did you get your first bcr Billy? Um, I remember renting VCRs back in the day, like going into videos. You rented VCRs? Yeah. Wow. You had to go to, when the first video stores opened, you could rent VCRs and I remember doing that and then I got my first one when we moved out to California. Our family got one and I thought, man, we're the coolest people on the block. Yeah. Do you remember your first one? Yeah, I don't remem you know, the first one my parents got was, it was like an old, it was like a little black vcr. Yep. And I remember that. I don't remember what the brand was, but it was one of the, definitely one of the cheaper ends. But my grandma, before my parents had one, my grandma had one that had like the top loader VHS thing. The one that popped up? Yep. And you put it in, you had to press the thing down. Yep. So that was old school. She had one. I just remember popping in VHS tapes all the time to watch movies on that thing. Yeah, that was, that was weird. I have some crazy memories with VCRs. It's so weird. VCRs are so weird that that used to be like life and, and that's the thing too. Like you had all those tricks to make sure that, you know, you would record things off of TV and all that. I, man, I was a pro. Yeah. So crazy. Okay. All right. Back, back to back to Scrooge. Richard Donner was a huge fan of Chuck Norris and he wanted Chuck Norris in the movie. In fact, he wanted him to play the part that was played by Lee Majors. But unfortunately Chuck was unavailable, but damn. Yeah. Well Lee Majors was cool. Yes. Let's, I'll just agree that Chuck Norris would've been even better Yeah. That would've made it like next level kind of thing. I could see him being in there doing that. That would be fun. When talking about the script for the film, remember how we talked about earlier when Bill Murray tore it up and rewrote, they had to rewrite the whole thing? Mm-hmm. So according to Bill Murray, a woman by the name of Elaine May did a rewrite of the script, and she is, here we go again. She's uncredited. She did not receive any credit from the movie. Huh? But she did a rewrite of the script and Bill Murray praised her in an interview saying she was, she really has a major coconut on the top of her head. It sort of turned out to be her movie. She took the script home one night and rewrote the whole thing. One. And how did she not get credited for that? That seems weird. Yeah, that seem, seems really, that does. That seems like there's nothing fishy going on, but it's messed up. Yeah. It's sad. Hmm. Like who, who are these talented people that just don't get credited on their work? I don't know. We've run into that a lot though. Like, you'll like actors that are in the movie. They're nowhere in the credits. You don't see'em on I M D B. It's, it's strange. Yes, it is very strange. In one of Frank's TV promotions at the start of the film, the narrator lists international terrorism among modern evils besetting the world, accompanied by visuals of a plane exploding during the film's release. Oh my That was horrible. It's so irreverent, but you can't help but laugh at it. You just can't. It's just, it is what it is. Uh, and during the film's release, and this is where, you know, things get, Little, uh, that's when hijackers blew up A Pan Am flight over Scotland. Ew. Yeah. So kind of the timing of that was not very, not very good, but you know, they didn't know they were just trying to be funny. Right. Yeah. It's walking a line though. It's a theme line. In the movie, Frank has this gift list that they, he buys gift for us. And one of the names on Frank's gift list is Elvis Presley's Manager, Colonel Tom Parker which I thought was hilarious. I didn't catch it before until I watched it this last time, cuz it was in my mind. I, you know, with the Elvis movie and all that stuff coming out, having come out this year, uh, when they, I heard to, uh, Colonel Tom Parker as a kid. I didn't know who that was. You know, know, right. I didn't, you don't anything to us and you don't really think about it when you're watching it over the years. But now it was kind of fresh in my mind. I was like, oh. Oh, okay. That's kind of funny. I liked it. Yeah, it was hilarious. Give him a towel. The two choices were a towel or a V C R. Yes. Now the names of the Christmas television shows from the I B C network, there were clips shown in, the movie. you had Scrooge. Mm-hmm. Father loves the Beaver. Ah, yes. Let me just say that again cause I laughed my way through it. Just so you make sure you hear this correctly. The name was Father Loves Beaver And the one we've already talked about, the the night the reindeer died. Yes. The other one is Bob Go's, old-Fashioned Cajun Christmas And the network's promotional slogan for these television shows was, you'll love it and you'll is spelled Y u l e but clever. I wanna see these movies I do like I do I mean, father Loves Beaver. It's probably not gonna be the kind of movie you're gonna wa wanna watch the Family. Yeah, I'll avoid that one. But I need to see the Night the Reindeer died and I need to see Bob Mogul's Old Fashioned Cajun Christmas. I just like he's floating in that boat and that alligator's following him and keeps looking back at it like, uh, it's so funny cuz that could be like That could be a, uh, a Hallmark movie. Hallmark Christmas movie. It's got that title. Oh, I love it. Let's see the following. People received a special appearance credit in the film. Lee Majors Mary Lou Retten, Jamie Farr, Robert Gole, John Houseman, buddy Hackett. Pat McCormick and Brian Doyle. Murray. Yeah. There's a lot of'em, dude. I I thought it was a lot of fun. So there's so many. I mean, if we wanna list them all off, uh, we've got, uh, so jamie Farr plays himself playing Jacob Marley in the TV special. Mm-hmm. uh, Kathy Kitty is the I b C nurse on the movie set, taking care of the sensor after she is knocked out by a streetlight, by one of the building crew. Michael O. Michael O'Donohue is one of the film's writers as a priest. Oh, okay. Lee Majors, obviously himself in the night the reindeer died. John Forsyth, uh, plays Lou Hayward, the ghost of Frank's former boss, which is absolutely insane because that is such a creepy. grotesque design. And there's that scene where like Bill Murray's staring at the back of his head and the mouse keeps like popping its head out of its skull He's like, dude, that was so fun. Oh, it's so gross. But yeah, it's fun, but it's also super gross. uh, Mitch Glazer is one of the film's writers as a guest, Mary Lou Retten as herself playing tiny, tiny team, tiny Tim Steve Kahan. Uh, Richard Donner's cousin plays a worker in the control room. At the end of the film, Larry Carlton plays a street musician. John Houseman plays himself hosting the television show. Scrooge Buddy Hackett plays himself playing Ebenezer Scrooge and Richard Donner is a worker in the control room at the end of the movie. Nice. So that's, that's everybody. Do you know what a highball cocktail is? I've heard of a highball. I don't know exactly what it is. It's most commonly a mixture of whiskey and soda, but there are many variations. Okay. It's known as a wedding reception drink, along with screwdrivers seven and seven s and similar. Easy to pour, easy to drink. Ah, look at you. Yes. Wow. I am now drinking a lot these days. I don't know if I should say Good for you on that one. Okay. Okay. During the movie. There are several references to other films, but the most obvious is to back to the future. Hmm. Uh, when Frank and the Ghost of Christmas passed, used their car, the Checker Cab to travel mm-hmm. back through time, they travel to 1955, which is the same year that Marty Mc Flyd travels and back to the future. So if they're in the same universe Ah, yeah. Marty Mc Fly and Doc Brown are running around and Scrooged, but in a different part of the country. Hill Valley. I love it. In the movie. Within the movie, yes. Ebenezer Scrooge's nephew talks about being married to Scrooge's niece in the scene with the door mice. Okay. In Dicken's story, Fred is Scrooge's nephew by Blood, not marriage. Fred is Scrooge's dead sister's son. This is an intentional mistake, implying that the domi scene was added quickly by people who didn't know or care about Dicken's story. Oh, okay. Okay. There we go. There it is. The crematorium scene with the burning shoes is likely a nod to a similar one in James Bond. In the James Bond film. Uh, diamonds are forever, maybe? Forever maybe. Could be. Could be a stretch there. Yeah. I think we're reaching on that one, but that's okay. We are reaching, we'll take it. We're reaching for the gold. Okay. The Coca-Cola Diet Cola soda tab. Mm-hmm. Features prominently in some scenes. It was one of the first diet sodas purchased on a national level. in 1963 and was finally discontinued in 2020. I remember I have a, I have a gross, yeah, I have a gross story for about tab you, you had tab all the time, right? I have a very gross to story about tab. You need to tell it now. So we are at a family reunion and tab was available and then I was like, you know what, I'm finally gonna try this stuff. I crack it open, I take a drink. And I was like, it's okay. And I put it down. I get thirsty, I come back at it later. Um, I didn't think about the fact that sometimes flies, like things that are sweet. So when I went to go drink the next drink, there was a live fly in my mouth. Oh. Because it was inside the can. Oh. And so now, anytime I think of tab, I think of AFL in your mouth. Yep. And I, eh, nope. Can't do it. But didn't you always have tab at your house growing up? No. No, no. I don't. No. We had weird sodas, but I don't think tab was one of'em. At least I didn't drink it. Mm. Okay. Yeah, cuz I always thought of, there's gonna be a fly in my mouth there. there's a fly in your mouth right now, Billy. I can see on the video. Dang it. I was hoping you wouldn't check. All right. So at the end of the movie, when everyone starts singing, put a Little Love in Your Heart. Right. That that's song. Mm-hmm. Bill Murray is ad-libbing that whole scene where he is trying to get the audience in the theater to react where he is like, all right. on the right side, you sing. And then he goes to the left side and he is like, all right, all, all the guys sing and all the girls sing. He's like, you can do better than that. So that was kind of fun. Right. As the credits rolled. That's fun that they kept filming and let him do it. Yeah, exactly. It, it added something. It added something fun. Glad Marie did that. Oh man. Now I need to see it in a theater just to see if people would actually sing along and like do what he is doing. Yeah. I don't remember seeing this movie in theaters, Uhhuh. But I am curious to know if people did actually sing along with it. Uh, I saw it in the theater and I don't think we sing along. Mm. But, but I was, I was 10 years old, so that was a lot. If I saw it in the theaters, I just don't have any memory of it. Yeah. Which is, there we go. Sad to me. I'm sorry buddy. I know the movie did okay. At the box office grossing 60 million on a budget of 32 million. Bill Murray was initially disappointed with the box office results as his last starring film. Ghostbusters was the highest grossing comedy film ever made at the time. Hmm. He felt since this was his first big film after a four year hiatus and with similar themes to Ghostbusters, it would've been a huge hit, but the initial reception was mediocre at best. However, the film's reputation has grown substantially since it's released, and it is now regarded as one of the best and most popular Christmas films ever. Thanks to its television viewing. Streaming view, streaming viewing and all that jazz. They say that, but I never hear anyone talk about Scrooged. You know, who did talk about Scrooged? Who's that? Roger Ebert who said, I'm sure he hated it. This was the worst film adaptation of a Christmas Carol he had ever seen Of course. What a, which is kinda sad cuz it's my favorite, you know? Right. It's my favorite. And I liked, I liked the old school Christmas Carol. Sure. Like the old movies and stuff like that. But, but this one, this was the one that was released and I was growing up and it's the one that, you know, I kind of just always had around. Right, right. During Christmas. So it's, uh, this is, this is my, this is my Christmas Carol. It's mine and I'm taking it back. I'm taking it all back. Yes. Ah, the Goonies will always come up. Is there anything that you wanna talk about that I might have missed, Billy? Like any stories, any favorite scenes, anything like that? Um, yeah, you know what, there's always, okay, so, because there's a lot, there's a lot going on in this, there's a lot. Um, I think that they picked the two best people for the ghosts of Christmas, past and Christmas present. Um, I think that David Johansen and Carol Kane were fantastic. Yeah. I loved, like, I don't think I can recall anything else that David Johansen has been in, but I could definitely see him always being in, in SCRs, like I know that for a fact. I just always think of him as the taxi driver in Scrooge. It was fantastic. I just love how into it he is when you're watching Frisbee and he's yelling with the kids. what about you? Are there scenes that we haven't talked about that you were excited about? Yeah, I think I hit on all of the ones that I, I really enjoyed. Um mm-hmm. I mean, I enjoyed the whole film though. It's just, it's just a fun Christmas movie. It's so much fun. And it, uh, quotes. I know you, you gave a quote earlier, but you were gonna throw out a new one. I gave out my quote from the carpenter talking about the nipples. You can hardly see them nipples. There is one quote. Oh man. So I still say it to this day when somebody said, what's that? I always think of Carol Kane saying It's a toaster My, my mind is random like that. But that plays in my head a lot of the time. But I think one line that I have never heard before, and I heard it this time and I laughed so hard just cuz it, it, you knew it was an ad lib, was um, David Johansen, you know, ghost of Christmas Pass says, let's face it, Frank Gardens looks got more outta life than you. And he's like, yeah, name one. I'm like, that's just a complete Bill Murray. Little ad lib. I mean, there's so many great quotes in here. Yes. one that I enjoyed was I never liked a girl well enough to give her 12 sharp knives. Sharp knives. Yep. Oh, man. Yep. Oh, just the whole last scene where Elliot's trying to shoot, Frank in the office building. Yeah. That's so ridiculous. But it was funny. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of great quotes. You got, uh, Karen Allen saying, you know, just kind of like one of the uplifting ones. Mm-hmm. uh, where she says, that's the one good thing about regret. It's never too late. You can always change tomorrow if you want to. Yeah, that's a good one. We'll end on that one. I like it. And, and like we, uh, talking about the, the end of the film when he is, talking to the audience and stuff. He's like, there are good people who are having trouble making their miracle happen. There are people who don't have enough to eat. There are people who are cold. You can go out and say hello to these people. You can take an old blanket outta the closet and go to them and say, here you can take them a sandwich and say, oh, by the way, here Oh, by the way, here, Oh, I like that. He's so funny. I love that last monologue of, of his though. Oh yeah. It's fun. There was one quote though that I. Before I started kind of rambling off, there was one I already had in mine. And when he says, when I want a wife, I'm gonna buy one She's gonna be devoted to me, to my wants, to my needs. Not like you. Let's face it, you treated me like dirt, Oh, man. But I love them It just, I'm gonna go buy one. I'm gonna go buy one when I wanna wife. I'm gonna go buy one. Oh man. Anyway. That is our episode of Scrooged. Ah, I love Scrooged. Thank you for listening to this episode of Secret Level where we talked about Bill Murray's Scrooge, directed by Richard Donner. This is such a fun film, great holiday movie. It's Christmas, have fun, be safe, be happy while you're out with your families and friends. You know, say, Hey, have you heard of this podcast called Secret Level? This is my Christmas gift to you, Ah, the best Christmas gift ever. The the best, best Christmas gift you can give anyone. And it doesn't cost you a thing. Not a thing. And everyone will be like, oh my gosh, this is the greatest Christmas present I've ever gotten. How much did you pay for it? And you're gonna be like, nothing. These guys just do it for free. 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