THE GOONIES - Goonies Never Say Die!

In Episode 33 of Secret Level, we discuss director Richard Donner and producer Steven Spielberg’s 1985 adventure film The Goonies. This movie played such a big part of our childhoods, it’s one of our all-time favorite movies, and we’ve finally recorded our episode for it! We talk about the making of the film, share some amusing commentary, and even share our pitch for a prequel film or series that we’d love to see get made! We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as we discuss this amazingly fun and imagination-fueled movie!

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If there were words to that song, to that musical score, what would it be? Right, dude. My name is Chunk Du. My name. My name is Ah, chunk. That makes me happy. Come on guys, You know what's hard about this movie? What? I have so many favorite quotes. There's not enough quotes. Not nearly enough. I'm just gonna jump into it as well. You should. Any minute now? I'm going to just start this podcast. Any minute now. Hello and welcome to Secret Level. I am your host, Joey Parr, editor-in-chief of geek tyrant.com. And joining me today is the Invincible Billy Fisher. Hello Billy. Hello, sir. How are you? I'm great. How are you doing, sir? I'm doing well. It's, it's a good day. It is a good day. It's a good day. I'm excited when we get to sit down, talk about movies, talk about our favorite movies, like this is fun. Yeah, this is, we do it. We do it sometimes. Yeah. This one I'm really excited for. I say that every week, but still I'm still really excited for it. Every week Billy is excited to talk about our favorite movies and Yes, and today we are discussing the classic 1985 Richard Donner directed film. The Goonies, which was also produced by the legendary Steven Spielberg. Yes, it was. Now I'm letting you know, now I'm going into this one with a little bit of intimidation because this is a lot of people's favorite movie. Yeah, it's one of the most requested that we've had so far. And yeah, man, hold on. My voice is like just starting the crack. Well, it happens to every young man in their lives. This, it's so weird. It feels like I've been screaming all day and now I have no voice, but I haven't been screaming all day. I mean, that's a good thing, cuz if you had been screaming all day, that'd be horrible. It's just weird. Sounds like a bad day. I don't know. I don't know what's happening to my voice today, everybody. I'm sorry. It's gonna get crackly. I guess this just came outta nowhere, just when we started recording this podcast. It feels like there's like just dust in the air. I'm, I'm just breathing it in and it is making my throat close up. That's awful. Weird. Yeah, it is weird. All right, well, we're just gonna keep going. I mean, that, that's all we can do, but, uh, So, yeah, this, this definitely is an intimidating movie to take on. It's one we wanted to do in the beginning, but we were like, man, I don't know if we're ready to take something like this on, because it's just so big. And we wanted to get used to the podcasting format. So here we are now, we feel like we're ready to, to tackle the Goonies, and we found some cool stuff. A lot of stuff I didn't know, a lot of stuff I did know. Uh, I'm sure some of you people know some of these stories out there, but, The Goonies was like an amazing movie when I was a kid. I, I, it, it had such a huge impact on my childhood and even in my adult years, like the Goonies. something that I kind of patterned my life after in a way. Mm-hmm. because it just captured my imagination. I, I, I wanted to be a Goonie when I was a kid. I still wanna be a Goonie as an adult and I to fulfill that need, I go on adventures. I have talked to you about this. I've shared some stories on this podcast. Uh, I go cave diving. I, go looking for gold and silver and precious metals. And I like to go find giant, pirate ships with skeletons in them, because that is the ultimate goal, isn't it? Everybody to go on an adventure and just come across a giant pirate ship filled with skeletons, rubies, gold, anything you could ask for. That would be amazing. That's like, that would be amazing. My, that's like my dream. And so I feel like I'm constantly just living it. I couldn't live it as a kid cuz I was a kid. The most I could do was go hang out with friends and ride around town. But now, as, as an adult, I can like go on these adventures for myself and, and the reason why I do is because of the Goonies. Like that that movie just captured my, my imagination and really imprinted itself on me. Well you can't really say you didn't do it much as a kid. Cuz we went to a lot of interesting places to film and went to a witch's house. Okay. So look to see what was going on. Yeah. So we did do stuff as kids, but, but not on such a big scale. Not on a big scale. We weren't, we weren't. Diving. We weren't exploring mines and like diving into caves into little holes in the ground that turned into these giant caverns and stuff like that. But, yeah, as a kid we did, we did have our fair share of adventures. Yeah. OJ Simpson's house, um, skipping school to go see OJ Simpson's house right after that thing happened with OJ Simpson. Yeah. I don't know what we were thinking. What were we, what we were, what were we thinking? Oh, we were having fun. I mean, it's, you can't be living that close to something like that and not go and check it out. Yeah. But yeah, we went on adventures as teens and stuff like that, but But I have been on a, on a couple adventures with you and it has been fun. Yes. Um, we've got some to do here in Arizona, which is, go find the lost Dutchman's mine. We need to find the lost Dutchman's Mine. I know people have died trying to find it, but I want to find it. We're gonna do it. And we got to also, search. The big problem is though, search, it's lost. That's, that's, yeah. That's the thing. And we're not Dutch The lack of being Dutch is hindering us. Truth. That is the truth. So anyway, what'd you do this week? What's been going on? What's, what's new in the world of Joe? Uh, been busy. Been super busy. Like, crazy busy. But some fun things that I did, I went to a co couple of, conventions. Oh yeah. How was La Comic-Con? I'm not a fan of La ComicCon. Oh boo. I, yeah, it wasn't that good. I went and it was kind of a, kind of a bummer. There's not like a lot of cool stuff to see. I mean, if you're looking for toys and stuff like that and you know, you like art. They have the artist alley and stuff like that. But for the most part it was kind of a, it didn't really, nothing really like spoke to me while I was there. Just nothing stuck out. So I went, I walked around, I got bored and I left. But, uh, I did go to Designer Con as well. Okay. Designer Con was so much cooler than La ComicCon. Uh, really just, yeah, cuz you gotta see, like with La ComicCon kind of the difference is you've got everything that everybody already has or does. It's just normal toys, normal stuff. But you see it at every convention. But Designer Con has more of this unique, uh, aspect to it where there's custom, everything is like custom made. So you got custom made action figures. Like a, like a Terminator et or like a home Alone, Rambo, or like weird, just weird. Little knit knacks like that, you know, and, and so it's a lot of original content. Um, okay. So, and that was, so that was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed that one a lot. I gotta meet a lot of artists and talk to a lot of artists and stuff like that. I was just, uh, really great. So I spent a lot of time doing that. Just spending the weekend, those things. And what else? I mean, mostly just work, man. Like work's been kicking my butt so much happening right now. Right? By the time we post this, I mean, A a lot of stuff has gone down. I mean, the DC cinematic universe, whole thing with, uh, James Gunn and Peter Saffron and all that stuff is just going absolutely insane at this moment. Yeah. I'm recording this podcast. It is like, what is happening in the DC studio's world right now? It just seems absolutely insane, but it's cool and exciting and things are happening and we have no idea what to expect. So I mean, just stuff like that and just keeping busy, man, like, just riding all the time, all day, all night, all day. That's what it's been like recently. And, uh, just doing business stuff, you know, just kind of keeping the business going, so Right. That's, that's kind of what I've been up to this week. Nothing like crazy, but, uh, definitely keeping myself busy to the point where I guess I'm losing my voice. I don't know. I know. You, you, you didn't mean to, it just happened. Yep. I like it. man. So, let's see. I was super jealous that you were going to La Comic Con cause I thought something fun was gonna happen there, but apparently, that was Don't be jealous. Don't be jealous. Yeah. I binged a show that was absolutely fantastic. I don't know if you've seen, it's called The Bear. Oh yeah. The Bear's great. Oh, man, that was, that thing was so good. Oh, dude, it like, one of my favorite things of the year. It's going, it's going on my list. The favorite things of 2022. Well, it, what, what got me too is that it, it says that it's a comedy and yes, there are funny parts, but man, I was so stressed, in a lot of those scenes. I was like, oh my goodness, what is happening? And then they'd hit you with the lighthearted thing, you know. But most of the, of every episode, majority of it was just some stressful, uh, Tension filled scene that you were like, ah, crap. It's a great character study. It's a great story. It's great writing. If you guys are not watching the Bear or haven't watched The Bear, it's on Hulu. It is definitely a must watch show. It is good. Absolutely. And, and the premise might not, you might, you know, the premise is a guy working in like a, like a little hole in the wall restaurant, you know? Right. That's it. Yeah. You know, that's this, he's, he's living his life, uh, running this restaurant, this little, this little place. And, and it's just, but it's an amazing story, like simple premise, but a lot goes on and it's definitely a show worth watching. The, the, my favorite part was, is that, I mean, it really, the highlight was definitely, uh, Jeremy Allen White, the, the lead character. was just fantastic. Like this was like his, he's so good breakout role. Yep. A hundred percent. But what, what I love in it is his who he calls his cousin, even Moss Back rack, that guy, like he was in The Punisher and he was in a, a whole bunch of other stuff as like a side character. I think he's finally getting into the, the light. Like he's being shown his acting skills. Yeah. Yeah. He's, that guy was outrageous. You're both great. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, that, that was what my week was, uh, consisting of is just watching that and feeling tense. All right. Well it's time to relax, bill. Time to relax. Let's do it because I love it. We are going to discuss the Goonies now, and I'm gonna start off by reading off that little synopsis that we like to read an old fashioned yarn about a band of adventurous kids who take on the might. Of a property developing company, which plans to destroy their home and build a country club. When the children discover an old pirate map in the attic, they follow it into an underground cavern in search of lost treasure. Come up against plenty of dangerous obstacles along the way. Yes, yes, they do. They do plenty of obstacles. So many It's right. So many Now, like you said, this movie impacted my life from the moment I saw it. Like I was like, this is the most amazing thing I've ever seen. And that's when I realized Billy says, as much as I want movie, shh, don't tell anybody. Um, I don't know which character you thought you were gonna be like, but I. Swore I was gonna end up like data. Like I was like, that's the guy I'm gonna be. That's the guy you're gonna be, huh? Yeah. I even went as far as to that next year I got a yellow backpack for school, like an all yellow backpack I was gonna go for it. And then I realized I didn't have a bunch of people designing, um, gadgets for me. Dang. And mine didn't work as well. I'm sorry. Sorry. No, it's okay. It it's okay. Sorry you missed out on the gadgets. Yeah. So, um, that's why I'm excited to talk about this. I hope everybody enjoys. there's been a lot of effort putting into it. It's pretty crazy. Most of the movie was actually shot in sequence. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, not a lot of movies do that. So that was kind of a cool little ti tidbit and it took, uh, five months to finish the film. Okay. Which is pretty wild. Right. A lot went into that. I mean, it's pretty crazy though, that they were able to shoot that sequence, but it makes sense that they did. Well, it's kind of like his sequencing, it's, it's kind of like taking a book out of, uh, et where it's, you know, that just seems like the natural progression for, for young actors and teens just to go one scene to another Yeah. Makes it easier for them to film. Yeah. The story for the film, created by Chris Columbus and he came up with the idea because he says he grew up in a factory, uh, town in Ohio. Okay. So there was nothing to do when he was a kid, and he used to go like, here we go. He used to go into the abandoned coal mines in his town during the summertime and mm-hmm. that was the inspiration behind the movie. And he was actually originally going to set the film in Ohio. And so I assumed because of that he would've included coal mines into the story instead of, instead of the pirate treasurer ship stuff. I don't know, I don't know what he was thinking in regards to that, but, uh, how cool would it have been? To grow up in a little town like that to explore coal mines. Cuz when I grew up, I mean, I grew up in the city, so my expl, my exploration consisted of running on the rooftops of buildings, uh, in downtown Glendale and skateboarding with signs all over the place. Ain. Skateboarding is not a crime. we thought we were so tough back then. So tough but now I, yeah, I enjoy going into these old, abandoned minds just like Chris Columbus did. Yeah. We're just like him. Yeah. just like him. the reason that the kids were called the Goonies, why they adopted that name is because they. all hung out at the local neighborhood on the poor part of Astoria, which was called the Goon Docs. And you've, I'm sure you've heard that term in the movie, so mm-hmm. uh, because of that, that's why they took on the name The Goonies. Very good. Yep. Took me a while to figure that out because I, when then that, when, Sean Aston's character calls it the Goon Docs, I always thought he was saying the Boondocks. So I was like, why didn't they call themselves the boonies? But then I Oh, interesting. Caught it one time. Oh, okay. And I was like, oh, got it, got it. The, the Goonies actually had an oath. Mm-hmm. that was cut out of the film, but they did have an oath. And the oath reads, I will never betray my goon doc friends. We will stick together until the whole world ends through heaven and hell and nuclear war. Good pals like us will stick like tar in the city or in the country, or the forest or the boonies. I am proudly declared a fellow Goonie. I like it. Isn't that cool? Yeah. Why was that taken out? I don't know. I, when I found that, I was like, wait a second. I would've been, I would've had that as my mantra for my life. right Now you gotta get that tattooed underneath the. From Time Bandits. Yes. I, I still have yet to get that tattoo. Yeah. Well, we're, we're improving on it. Now you're gonna have the Goonies motto, the Goonies Oath tattooed in the map. Yeah. In the development of the film. Leading up to the film, there's a lot of people that were, that were auditioning for the roles of these kids in Hollywood. So, Corey Ham originally auditioned for the role of Mouth. Oh, okay. And that role ended up being given to Corey Feldman, but they later ended up meeting and being really good friends throughout their life. Right. But they were never cast together until, was it The Lost Boys or licensed the Lost Drive. License to Drive was later. Yeah. So the first time they were casting a film together was The Lost Boys, and they later ended up starring in the film license to drive together. As far as Andy goes mm-hmm. the role of Andy. The role of Andy heather Langen Camp from a Nightmare on Elm Street audition for the role, which I thought was interesting. Yeah. And Spielberg and Donner felt that she gave this great audition and that she was the right physical type for the role. but she was 20 years old at the time and the script described her as being 17 and Spielberg and Donner felt that she was too old for the role. Huh. I mean, you can still, I mean, here's the thing that's crazy about that. Right? Okay. Let's, let's look at all of these films in the eighties where they cast these teenagers, right. Uhhuh, they all look like they're in their thirties, Absolutely. This might be one of the, one of the first eighties films made where they actually cast teenagers in the role of teens. Right? Awesome. It was so funny watching some of these old movies and when they're in high school, you're looking at these high school kids, you're like, what the, they're like 30. What is going on here? I mean, I, I say that all the time though. If you look at like,, Yearbooks from the eighties. Yeah. Everyone in there, like guys have full on mustaches and beers. Dude, I don't even know what was going on. Right. Maybe it was something in the water. But yeah, everyone looked like they're in their mid thirties when they graduated from high school. It was definitely the water Uh, the part of Andy ended up going to carry green. Mm-hmm. And during the opening credit sequence, Andy is the first of the characters to appear on screen. This is true. So, you know, which, that was a great intro. Like one of the best intros Ah. Like just the style, uh, how they stylized it, that they pass by every main character going through, and you get to see right away what their personalities are like. I was like, man, that is genius. Yeah. Now I really, uh, I really enjoyed that sequence. It really, it, I mean, there's so much going on. You got to meet all of the characters. Uh, you got to see their personalities in action. You've got the villains being, uh, the whole stor, the whole story arc is being set up in that title sequence with the villains the fratellis. and it is just so cool. I love like chunks playing video game or is it he playing video games or is he eating pizza? Is he doing both? He's both. He's doing both. He's doing both, yep. And he like smashes the pizza up against the window to watch the police chase. That was great. Yep. But I mean, yeah, it is great. It is a really enjoyed that, uh, opening sequence. Just really grabbed your attention and threw you right in the movie and you were just ready to go. So, okay. Story time. My kids, I've watched Goonies at my house a hundred thousand times in front of my kids and they a hundred thousand. A hundred thousand. I just spent my life watching movie. I think you're hyper exaggerating there. Just a little bit but continue on. Um, my kids were never, they never got into it. If they're allowed to walk out of a room, they will, they'll just be like, okay, whatever. But I So Harkins did a$5 movie night where they showed Goonies on the big screen. Oh yeah. and it was so popular that usually they only do one screen for their$5 movie. Yeah. But it's sold out. So they had three different screens showing Goonies that night. And I took my kids and usually my youngest will go to the bathroom two to three times in a movie. He didn't go to the bathroom once and everyone was over. He's like, we have to watch that again. Cuz there's just something about seeing it in, I mean, just the very opening sequence, they were like stunned, like they were very, you know, thrown into the world and. Yeah. None of'em talked. They just sat there and it was, oh man. That's awesome. Classic. You know, there's a lot of stuff though in this movie, like in regards, it, it's kind of, it's, it's kind of has some raun us to it. Right. Um, little bit little bit. You got, you got the, you got the fun, scene with the David Statue dude, where they Oh yes. Where they break off David's penis and they glue it on up towards his face. It wouldn't be here if it wasn't Yep. It's so funny. I mean that, that whole opening scene in the house where you get to meet all the characters and they're all interacting with each other, it was just so much fun. And you know, that's where you kind of get to meet, uh, chunk for the first time. Yes. And he actually, cuz that's, he actually talked about that secret. And, that sequence that they, they shot with his introduction. Mm-hmm. and Jeff Cohen played chunk, and, he was embarrassed to do it, which obviously I can see why. I mean, he has to do the famous truffle shuffle that every kid in America at the time is like, do the truffle shuffle. But it was such a, it was such a fun and playful scene, but at the same time it was also kind of, you know, degrading her. Yeah. It was hurtful. It's definitely hurtful. He had recently just recovered from the chicken box when he did the scene. Okay. The look on his face when mouth asks him to do the truffle shuffle, that look of despair and embarrassment, that was apparently all genuine. Like that was Oh really? That was his real like reaction, to what was going on. Mm-hmm. And to help him feel more comfortable. to shoot that scene. The director, Richard Donner, he asked everyone to clear the set, so he asked everyone to leave. So it was just gonna be him doing his thing so that they could shoot the scene. Mm-hmm. Donner explained in a past interview that shooting the scene was painful for him. He said there was no direction. I don't take any credit for that. It, it was just Jeff, he had to stand on that stump and be ridiculed by his friends so he could come in the house and he did it as best as that character could do it. So much humor comes from pain, although I'm sure he was too young to be analytical about it, but I'm sure that was part of his instincts. It was a very painful scene. As for what Cohen thinks, or as for what Cohen thought about the scene, he looks back on it with fond nostalgia, uh, and explained in an interview. The truffle shuffle for me was really hard because as a fat kid, the last thing you wanna do is show your belly to everybody, so that's horrifying to begin with. Another reason I was afraid was because I had the chickenpox at the time, and I had them mostly on my belly, so I knew I would show my belly with chickenpox and it would be a mess. Cohen says, if you pause the scene, you can spot the chickenpox. Hmm. Re regardless of being considered, and I quote the fat kid on the film, the actor ended up being the captain of both his high school wrestling team and the football team, and he went on to become an entertainment lawyer. Good for him. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I've never paused it during the truffles truffle scene. I mean, really? Who has, who pauses it during the truffle shuffle? For real? I don't know. if you do, there's some issues So they're in the house, they're doing their thing. They break the dated statue, they end up in the attic at some point, and they find the map, right. This is, this is the scene that really like sparks the imagination in them and they're like, we gotta find the rich stuff. Right. Well, that map, was created by production designer j Michael River And in an interview. He said that while the map looked good, it didn't look old enough. So he had to take that map. And he said he took it to his hotel room and he aged it by he used coffee. Mm-hmm. And when he couldn't find any paint, he ended up using his own blood Oh my gosh. On the map. So there is human blood on that map. That's bonkers. So that map. the whole thing that took them on this journey. And there was an old delo that they had with holes in, in it and stuff, and I always thought it was funny that when they finally get out there and they get on their bikes and they're riding around trying to find the rich stuff mm-hmm. that they end up at the exact spot where they're able to put the, the bloom up to the, to the, to the rocks out to the rocks out in the water. Mm-hmm. like, what are the chances? Well, it's cool and, and, and stuff like that. It's like, man, they sure did get lucky Yeah. No kidding. Right. To end up at that spot, you know, and that they knew to look out in that area and to match them up with the holes in the delo. So that was, yeah. Yeah. that was awesome. That was fun. Uh, one of the things I kind of we're just gonna jump into this because this is one of the most well known things. Maybe, maybe some of you don't know this, but I'm sure a lot of you do the pirate ship. Mm-hmm. in this movie that they find the pirate ship was entirely real. That was built for the film. All the shots of the movie were filmed in the ship. and it's got funny cuz after the film, it was offered to anyone who would take it but no one wanted it, so it was scrapped. Which is so sad to think about, but what are you, where are you gonna put it? Where you gonna put this giant pirate ship from the Goonies? Right. You know, as much as, yeah, I would've love it. Kept it, take it. But where were we gonna put it? right? Yeah. So what was done with it? It was just, it was, uh, scrapped. They just scrapped it? Yeah, they just scrapped it. Oh, that's, I'm sure they kept some elements from it for sure. But, uh, actually I went to the Warner Brothers lot and did their tour once and they had, uh, in their, in their archives they kind of take you on a tour of some of their prop archives and stuff, and they have pieces of the ship in there still, like a Oh that's cool. One-eyed Willy's chair and stuff like that. So, but yeah, so that, that pirate ship was real, uh, the cast was not allowed to see the pirate ship before they shot the scene where they go down those water slides and end up where the pirate ship is. Okay. Uh, cuz Donner wanted to catch a genuine, the, wanted to catch the genuine reactions. When the kids popped up out of the water and saw it for the first time, he, yeah. He just, he wanted to see like that, that awe and wonder. Right. Right. Because the size and scope of it was, was real. Like they fell into a water, uh, and came up and there was a giant ass pirate ship just sitting there waiting for him turn to play on. Yep. And when they shot the scene and Josh Brolin, uh, came down and popped his head up, he was Uhhuh. So surprised that, and there's, there's two thi there's, so there's one report I read where he yelled, holy shit. And the scene had to be reshot. but Brolin has a different story, and I'm gonna read what, what his experience, which his, what his actual experience was looking back on it. So he had, so he said, This is what he said. 16 years old. Clueless reading Stan Slovs ski books on character. In my little prison of a 10 by 10 Allwood trailer, Martha Plimpton is my best bud. And Robert Davi scares me. Stiff. Steven Spielberg is a God. And Richard Donner is is a camp counselor. I think the writer Chris Columbus and I are the same height. We haven't seen the boat. We are backed into the water that the stage is filled with. We are told to submerge in unison, and when we come up and turn around and react naturally, they roll cameras. We go under, we hear a muffled action. And when we surface and turn around, there's silence. all of us. Then the first word spoken is mine. It's loud. Fuck. And the take is ruined. Dang. He says, I don't care. The ship is 150 feet long. It has treasures hanging from all sides. It's every kid's dream come true. seems even now totally appropriate. Absolutely. I mean, in all the things that we've ever done, to see a giant pirate ship just pop up outta nowhere, I think that's an appropriate reaction. Yeah, man. Okay, so I have a question for you. Yes. did you know about the octopus? I, I knew about it, yeah. Okay. Not until, I, I think I found out about the octopus at some point, uh, a few years ago for the first time. I can't remember exactly when, but I did know about it before jumping into the podcast. Okay. Research. So if you recall, when all, all is said and done, the kids are out on the beach, their parents come to get'em, all that fun stuff. Yeah. Data starts talking about an octopus. And in the be like the first few times that I saw it, I was like, there's no stinking octopus. What is he talking about? Why is he lying and why are they going along with it? Right. Yeah. Well, here's, here's the thing, Uhhuh, and it's funny because. Until I found out about the octopus. It never registered. Like that line never registered for me. Like Oh really? Yeah. It's like one of those things where it's like I never questioned it until I learned that there was an a deleted octopus sequence. Right. But until then, like for some reason, and I don't understand why, it never registered to me to think, why is he saying that they are fighting an octopus? It wasn't until I found out there was an octopus where I like, right. Oh my gosh. He said there was an octopus Right. Okay. So I didn't realize that until, so right after we moved out to California, when I was young, it was on channel five. Goonies was. Yeah. And the full octopus scene is in the edited versions of the Goonies. I've only seen the um, I, I've only seen what is on YouTube. I've only looked up the, the deleted scenes, but I never actually thought cut into the movie. Yeah, it is. So, you know how they have to cut a movie for time to be on the edited version for like channel five or channel, you know, Fox or whatever. Yeah. It's inserted into those PORs, those movies, those versions. That's so for time. So weird. And I saw it and I was like, I've never seen this before. What is like, it blew my mind. And then years later I found out it was because of the editing of it, they had to cut out all the cussing. They had to cut out all the, it was, it's crazy. The octopus scene was so funny though. It it is so bad. I, I was after I thought I was thankful it was cut out. I, I understand why they cut it. It makes sense. That they would cut it. It looks like, do you remember the Robin Williams Popeye movie? Yes. Yes. It looks like the exact same octopus from that movie in Goonies I was like, this octopus is getting all over the place right now. That's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That we should, we should talk about the Popeye movie at some point. At some point. Yeah. The octopus scene though. That was great. That was, uh, that's a fun one. If you haven't watched it. Uh, I'll throw it up on the social media channels, but, uh, it's, or you could just look it up, whatever. It's, it's, it's kind of fun to watch if you've never seen it. It is, one-eyed Willie ship. Mm-hmm. is called the Inferno. Yes. I love that name. It took two and a half months to build. It was modeled after Errol Flynn ship in the Seahawk from 1940. Okay. The sails required more than 70 feet of material. The largest measured 30 feet by 60 feet. Some of the ships rigging was recycled for the Pirates of the Caribbean ship at Disneyland. Oh, crazy. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? So you wonder where some of that stuff went. There you go. Oh, that's cool though. and it was, and they did that because Pirates of the Caribbean was being, renovated at the time. Okay. One, one-Eyed Willie's skull was made from Real Bone, apparently. Huh. And Richard Donner kept both one-eyed Willie's head and a model of the ship for his collection. From what I've read, Oh, that's cool. Yeah. All right. Man. If I was any of those people on that film, I would've tried to keep as much as possible, dude. I would've been taking, there's just a lot of cool stuff there. I would've been taking everything home, and Seriously. And while we're on the subject of one-eyed Willie Uhhuh in the storybook of the film, uh, one-Eyed Willie's backstory is told white. Yeah. It's told by, that's awesome. Francis Fratelli, when the Fratellis take the de bloom from chunk mm-hmm. one-Eyed Willie, whose real name is William B. Porto. He was a court jester before becoming the infamous pirate. When he was banished from five Spanish courts for his practical jokes, he formed a band of pirates who mooted hundreds of the king's ships and accumulated a treasure worth millions Willie ship. The inferno was attacked by three of the king ships, and Willie steered his ship into a hidden underground cavern it was sealed within by Cannon Fire from the British. Willie and his men had spent a couple of years trying to repair the ship and had built underground caves with weird booby traps to protect the treasure. One of Willie's men escaped to tell Willie's story, which became a legend. Now, I love this story, and I know everyone is talking about, oh, we wanna see a Goonie sequel, which sure would be cool, but me personally, oh, are you gonna give away the secret? The secret, what we've talked about, dude, I wanna see a freaking Goonies prequel man. Yeah, that, that focuses 100% on one-eyed Willie's adventure. Absolutely. I, I mean, I. The whole court gesture thing is such a great setup for the character too. I mean, you could, you could do it in one film, you can do it in three films. You could do this whole pirate adventure. I'd rather see three, uh, I'd rather see a trilogy of one-eyed Willie Pirate films over any more pirate of the Caribbean films. Like 100%. It would be so cool to see that happen. And, and, and that's my bitch, the Hollywood. If anyone in Hollywood is listening, uh, call me. Let's, let's do this. I want to make this movie. It would be so much fun and I mean, we've all heard about What they want the sequel to be. But after you and I talked about it that one time where like the prequel would be so much more fun. That's all I've ever thought about was, dude, what you gotta get there. I want to see a prequel more than anything. I wanna see a prequel more than a sequel. I wanna see one-eyed Willie's pirate story. That's what I want. That's right. That's what I want to see. Um, well, and this, this story that could have been told in the movie is exciting enough to get that, those juices flowing. Like, Hey, let's, I know I'm, let's get this started. I'm, I'm shocked this hasn't happened. Like, I'm shocked that Hollywood is not like, like jumped on this. I don't understand everyone. They'll talk about the sequel and bringing like the original characters back, but you don't need that. You don't, I mean, sure it'd be cool, but the one I Willy story is so much more cooler. In mind. It'd be, it'd be really cool if they did it like, um, when we saw Split. Yeah. Like you just don't tell anybody that. It's one-eyed Willie, you just start with Yeah. Until the end. You just start with this character, this court jet. You just tell this story and then at the very end, like one-eyed Willie, like, oh, this is so cool. Be so awesome. So did anybody react when you saw Split in the theater? We just ruined the movie for everybody. We ruined this non-existent movie. Right. We just spoiled it. Right. Well, let's make it, and that way everybody else can be quiet and we'll figure it out. Yes, yes. Just be quiet guys. Don't tell our secrets. We're gonna figure this out. Yeah. We're gonna get this done. oh, what were we gonna say? I was just gonna say, when you saw Split, was there anybody in the movie theater that got excited? Uh, no. Uh, most of the people in the theater I saw at the theater was full, but you gotta understand that. Unbreakable came out like, man, what was it, 15? 15? Mm-hmm. 20 years. How, how many years was it? It was, I think it was 15. We'll have to, we'll have to look it up. It was a long time. So you had all these like, uh, teens in there, or young adults that didn't even, that had never even seen Unbreakable. And so at the theater, I saw it at, everyone was like, wait, what was that like? I don't understand. Like, there was a lot of confusion. Uhhuh And uh, I just remember like walking outta theater and everyone was like, I don't get it. And I'm just like, have you seen Unbreakable? And like, I talked to like a few people. There was like, no. And I'm like, go watch Unbreakable Right. And then it'll all make sense. If you guys have ever seen a movie with me, sometimes I react when something amazing happens. Like I'll give a cheer or I'll say something. Woohoo. Woo. Exactly. So, um, I saw it with. My cousin and me and another guy, when they showed Bruce Willis at the end, ju, we were like, yeah, And everyone looked at us like we were crazy. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. Everyone's like, what? Why are they screaming? Like I started clapping and everyone was just like, why is he clapping? Right. Anyway, yeah, we should do those. We should do that trilogy cuz that trilogy is fun. It is a fun trilogy for sure. Yeah. okay. Back to Goonies. Yeah, back to Goonies. While we're on this whole storybook thing, there was also a scene that didn't make it into the film that ended up in the storybook. Okay. That, that involved the whole gang, the whole Goonies gang. They discover a room with a dangling skeleton in a pirate's costume. Okay. And the Goonies had to tickle the skeleton's elbow. Mm-hmm. which would point to one of three tunnels that they had to enter where they must go. Okay. So Steph tickles the skeleton's elbow. Mm-hmm. And it points to the middle cave and the Goonies continue the search for one-eyed Willie's treasure. I just love that they had to tickle that they had to tickle a skeleton's elbow. How would they know? That's exactly what I was gonna ask. How would they know to tickle the elbow Like, that's not natural. Nobody sees a skeleton and goes, I'm tickling his elbow. Exactly. This doesn't happen. That's funny. That's awesome. Um, all right, let's see. You know the scene where chunk is crying during the confession, the classic. Oh man. Confession. That should have won Jeff Cohen an Academy Award. Absolutely. That was, it's one of the best scenes ever. The confession scene was so funny. It was, I loved it. He, uh, he actually, to get the tears flowing mm-hmm. he thought of his mother dying. Oh my goodness. Stir that. Sea Oh, well, I mean, that would do it. But Chuck's confession is like amazing. Like, I love that thing. And, uh, if you stay till the end, you're going to, you're gonna hear that you're gonna hear me Act it out. Oh no. I can't wait. Oh, fantastic. There is, another scene in the movie where Chunk starts crying, there's a point in there where he grabs the ice cream, he's excited to eat it, and then he gets it taken away from him. Mm-hmm. And he starts, he, he starts crying when the, the ice cream's taken away from him. It's such a, like an innocent cry. Like, he's like, I just, I just want my ice cream. And it's taken away by him, by, uh, Jake Fratelli. Uhhuh. And it's so funny that, Donner started giggling. while they were filming the scene. And apparently if you listen carefully, you can actually hear Donner giggling off screen when Jake, no way. Right after Jake takes the plastic spoon away from chunk and he starts to cry. Uhhuh I, I don't know if this is true. I tried, uh, listening to it. I I couldn't hear anything though, so, oh, okay. I don't know. But at the same time, I didn't have the volume like crazy up, but I tried listening to it once and I couldn't find it. So I don't know if this is true or not. So if you guys can hear Richard Donner laughing, giggling in the background, like that would be mm-hmm. hilarious. I'm gonna try it again later. Yeah. Uh, with a, with the volume, I might put my, uh, headphones in and try it through that. Okay. Cause I, I didn't do that. I was trying to listen to it in a room, but, uh, I don't know. something to try out something to see if it's there or not. I didn't know that. That's funny. When they're going through the cave at one point and they have all those bats come flying out at'em. Mm-hmm those bats were made of crumpled black pieces of paper that were shot out of a cannon Hmm. Oh, that's cool. Yeah's It got the effect. That's fun. It worked. Yeah, absolutely. I thought that was kind of funny cuz I would've never thought, I never saw them as crumbled paper. But yeah, it makes sense that that's what it would be now. Well it just happened so fast. Like when the, when it, the, it blows past the rock, you know, it just, that makes sense. Now, all of the main characters in the movie are referred to by their nicknames throughout the whole film. Mm-hmm. they do have real names that are Okay. Really never mentioned. So Mikey's real name is Michael Walsh. Mm-hmm. Mouth's. Real name is Clark DeVere. Data's name Is Richard Wang. Brand is Brandon Walsh. Chunk is Lawrence Cohen. Mm-hmm. Andy is Andrea Teresa Carmichael. Mm-hmm. Steph Is Stephanie Steinbrenner? Mm-hmm. and Sloths. Real name is Latney. Fratelli. That's funny. I think the only ones that I didn't know were data and sloth. That's crazy yep. Which, that's funny. So lot. Huh? Lot. Fratelli, Latney, Fratelli. Yep. there's that other great scene where he is, Chuck's spilling his guts and he claims during the confession that he pukes off of the theater balcony. Mm-hmm. So there's been rumors out there that this is based on something that happened to him for real. And this is not true. Uh, the basis for the theater story was a real life prank pulled on. Executive producer Stevens Spielberg though, while growing up in Phoenix, Arizona. So that's funny. Spielberg took that prank that was played on him and put it in the movie. That's awesome. That's still one of the most iconic scenes is the confession scene. The confession scene is amazing. I love it. Made me really scared of blenders. Yeah. I had a well irrational fear of blenders for a little bit. It's funny though, because again, this is one of those things, whenever I see a blender mm-hmm. my mind automatically reverts to the scene where they are holding chunks, hand over it as it's going. Mm-hmm. Oh man. It's just one of those things that sticks with me. I don't know. I see a blender, I think of the Goonies. It's so weird what movies can do to your mind. Well, yeah, exactly. I'll, I'll never look at it one the same. Yeah. Sloths line. Hey, you guys. is a reference to Rita Moreno's character from the electric company in 1971. Huh. All right. Yeah. Well, I mean that's all he did was watch TV all day. Just sit, chained up and watch tv. It makes sense. Yep. They don't really reference the electric company in it, but I mean that it makes sense. I guarantee he's seen it. Yep. In the original screenplay, one of the first drafts of the script, was a scene that was actually filmed for the movie, but was removed from the final. which saw the Goonies banging the water pipes. You remember that scene where they're down there and they're banging things and it's, it's a really weird thing. Mm-hmm. by the way, speaking of like that aspect of the film, okay. If there are pipes u if there are pipes underground, wouldn't plumbers have found this cave at some point? Hmm. Didn't even think of that. Well, no, because they had to move the rock to get further into the caves, you know what I mean? Well, there, but shortly after the, the pipe scene, they go to the rock where it's just, it's like a dead end. That's true. But like, I've never, I, I've always questioned why brand decided to, it was time to move that rock, but there's also the well too, That would've been a very easy shortcut. Yes. Just going down the Well Absolutely. Anyway, anyway, okay. I'm off topic now. Yeah, no, we're good. Just questions I had while I was watching the movie. Okay. So during that scene where they're shaking the pipes, and they're banging them mm-hmm. it accidentally causes zoo animals to escape and two gorillas steal Troy Perkin's car and drive off in it. The scene later resurfaced along with the alternate ending on YouTube in 2020. Hmm. Have you ever seen this deleted scene, Billy? I, I have not seen this deleted scene. Did you get the chance to watch it Hold on. Hold on a sec. Let's see. Oh my gosh, it's there. Well, daddy, why don't we start with the Walsh's? I like the way you think. Boy, let's go. All right. This is a real sea guys. This exists. We're watching it together. Car is driving down the street. There are two gorillas in the car driving down the street. This is I'll post this one on social media too. Oh my gosh. Oh man. That's ridiculous. All right. So yes, uh, That's awesome. I'm glad it wasn't in the movie cuz it would. So this is a real scene. It's funny because as I was doing the research that I came across that I'm like, and I, I don't know why I didn't look it up before, but I thought like, there's no way that's in the movie. Um, right, yeah. But it's there. It's, it, it was a real scene that was shot and deleted. Oh man. I'm still watching it. It's still going on. Okay. The film had a couple of Easter eggs that were related to the 1984 film Gremlins, which was directed by Joe Dante and executive produced by Steven Spielberg and Chris Columbus. When chunk calls the police, the officer who picks up says, this call is like the prank about creatures that multiply when you throw water on them. Another Easter egg featured a gremlin's action figure pack that was seen in Mikey's Room. So there's that. Yep. I. My, uh, 11 year old when they said that he all, that's gremlins But he never made the connection that Corey Feldman, who plays mouth was in gremlins. I was like, um, he'll figure it out eventually. That's awesome. Yeah. So I'm just gonna go through now we're kind of, there's a lot of like little tidbits of information here that I thought would be fun to share. The swearing in the film was deliberately and strategically placed so that it could easily be drowned out by broadcasters who wanted to remove it when they put it on tv. If you watch closely, it often happens when there is a lot of background noise, like police car chases at the beginning of the film or when there's running water or another loud source of sound nearby. This way the broadcaster could lose the profanity in the sound mix or cut a couple seconds of footage without losing anything significant happening in the. That was good thinking. The Lou Gehrig baseball card that Michael finds on Chester Copper Pott's body is worth$275,000 if it was in mint condition. So did he take the card? I'm pretty sure he took the card. Yeah. He should have taken the card. I hope he took the card. According to Richard Donner in an interview with the, and I quote, directors, uh, Spielberg told the cast members to act cold and distant toward Donner on the last week of filming, which confused him shortly after filming Rap Donner went to his beach house in Hawaii, ran into a frenzied neighbor who took up his entire day. When he arrived home, the entire cast was there to celebrate with a cookout. Spielberg flew them all over to Hawaii on the promise that they not speak a word of the surprise to Donner, which brought them to act the way they were on set the last week of filming, which is, man, that must have bummed him out. Yeah, no kidding, dude. I mean, you spent all this time with these kids and now they don't even wanna talk to, it's the last week and it's like, we're just like, we're just gonna ignore the director now. Man, we were that cold and distant like We don't like him. The last week of filming and especially since they're filming in sequence too, he had have been like, man, this is like the ex most exciting scene. Like what happened? The com, what happened to the camaraderie that we had guys? Yeah. No kidding. Oh man. Yeah, that's a, I mean, that's cool. I'm just sad I didn't get to go to Hawaii too. Cindy Lauper co-wrote the theme song, Goonies Are Good Enough. Mm-hmm. And they shot a music video that features a cameo by Steven Spielberg. The 12 minute music video basically tells the movie story as a musical, so, okay. Yeah, that's kind of fun. Laer plays Cindy, a new Goonies recruit and the Bengals play. Pirates Oh, the Bengals Never thought they would appear on our podcast, but here they are. Here they are. And all of the kid actors in the movie showed up in the music, music video. It was a fun music video. It was, I, I rewatched it, uh, in preparation for the podcast, just cuz I hadn't seen it in I don't know how long, and it was mm-hmm. it was pretty entertaining, right? I haven't seen it in a while, but I remember when I was a kid, I used to watch it all the time. There's a, there's a wall calendar in the film around the nine 50 mark of the movie that shows October of 1985. Mm-hmm. around 6 43 mouth indicates that it's a Saturday. The newspaper front page scene around the 43 minute mark is dated October 24th, 1985. All of this would mean that the action in the film takes place on Saturday, October 26th, 1985, which incidentally happens to be the exact same day on which the events of the original back to the future took place. That's awesome. Isn't that cool? Yeah. I love that. It's kind of a fun little fun little thing. Yeah. That's cool. The film was selected into the National Film Registry in 2017 for being culturally, historically, and aesthetically significant. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yes. According to international maritime salvage law, the rights to a salvage vessel and its contents go to the person or persons who first successfully brings something off the vessel in question. Since Mikey brought the jewels off the ship, the inferno, everything on it belongs to him. That's awesome. Yep. Now, I wanna talk about that for a minute, because at the end of the movie, we see the ship floating off into the distance. Right. And they all just, they film it, it's on camera. Uh, they're just sitting there watching it go away. Go away. But at the same time, wouldn't you be like, you, you could go get it. Right. So I kind of wanna know what happened. Did they go get the ship, did they get the contents on it after they found it? Did they turn it into a museum? They just, they, you know damn well they weren't gonna let the ship sail off and just float around in the water forever. Right, right. If they didn't get it, someone else would. So they better go out there and get what's theirs. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. But I'm sure they weren't familiar with maritime law at the time. N no. That Mike could, ACC claimed it, but, but Mikey's dad would be right. So Mikey's dad would, should be like, Hey, let's go, let's go. Uh, get out there and let's go get that thing, get the rest of that rich stuff, kids. Right. Yeah. So I'd like to think that they went out there and got the rich stuff happily ever after. They just didn't have that bag of jewels, you know what I mean? Right. That they got the whole enchilada, the whole ship, the whole thing. And they should be this giant like museum in Astoria now where they've got all of the, all of the pirate stuff and they got one-eyed Willie sitting in his chair behind glass and it's haunted. Uh, kind of like the Queen Mary Yes. Out in the harbor. Anyway, I don't know. Ah, yeah. Maybe if they, well never admit they ever make that sequel. Who knows? Yeah. I mean, the, the premise for the sequel seems pretty fun. It's just, yeah. I don't think anybody's gonna pay the money to get it done. Now we'll see, we'll see. Uh, the arcade game that we see chunk playing at the pizza place at the beginning of the film is cliffhanger. Okay. Did, did you ever play cliffhanger? I did not. Me either. I don't remember cliffhanger, but that's the aim he was playing at one point in the movie. Uh, Sean Austin cries out. Holy Mackenzie. Okay. Do you remember this scene? Mm-hmm. Sean Austin's brother is Mackenzie Aston, who starred in, uh, what was that movie? Billy Garbage, pale Kids? Yeah, that one. Uh, Yep. Um, so what scene was that? When did, when does he say that? Uh, don't ask me that, Billy. Oh, well, uh, Wow. wow. So, okay. So what was that scene? that scene right there? Yeah. Maybe he did, maybe he bet his brother. He, he could get it in there. Yep. For one line of dialogue, Corey Feldman had to dub in the name of Fast Food Chain Godfather's Pizza when Straw Hat Pizza refused participation in the film. I've always noticed that because you can hear the dub and his, and, and they're focusing on him. So you see his mouth do something different than what he's saying. I've always wondered what he would actually do you remember godfather's pizza? Heck yeah. I do. I remember Godfather's pizza, but I don't remember straw hat pizza. No. At all. Neither. So I guess, uh, straw hat made the bad decision because they were forgotten. Right. There's actually a godfather's pizza here in Arizona. No way. I saw, saw it the other day. Dang. That's awesome. Heading down to Tucson. Yeah. So I mean, they're still around That's what you get. Yep. You shouldn't have messed, shouldn't have Messed with the Goonies. So there's a scene that was storyboarded in which Mikey and Andy find a pirate skeleton with daggers in its eye sockets. And we see a scene like this in the movie, right? Or a skeleton with the daggers. But in this, storyboarded part, andy pulls the daggers out of the skeletons eye sockets, which we didn't see in the movie. But anyway, just a little thing there. That's cool. Yep. I mean, that shows a lot of bravery from her. Um, because in the beginning when she starts seeing skeletons and stuff, she backs away. But hey, that's cool. According to actress Jenny Lou Tugen. who played Ms. Wang in the film. The ending of the movie was changed drastically from the script. She says In the original script, the Goonies went home and it was while Michael's family was packing to leave where Rosata finds the marble bag and the gems while doing the laundry. There was a reference to the last scene being changed to occurring on the beach, so that the ending was simplified and the inferno could be seen in a magnificent, exciting shot at the end. Yeah. So if you guys watch that gorilla scene, they show the scene, of her finding them at home, and it's not as exciting as what we got. No, definitely not, not even a little bit. When Sloth rips off his outer shirt and reveals a Superman t-shirt accompanied by the classic John Williams Superman theme. Mm-hmm. That was cool. That was freaking cool. Now it was easy for them to get because Richard Donner directed Superman of course. Yeah. So that was kind of a little homage to Richard Donner there. Right. Which, which was fun. He got to throw that in there. so one of the things that I really loved that they did with Sloth is they, you know, they introduce him or show him off in the beginning as being kind of a scary character. Yeah. But by the end of it, my kids were like in tears when he's. you know, talking to Chunk and saying that he's gonna go home with him. My kids were like, we love Chunk. I wish you could come home with us. I was like, yeah, well, it, it, it was, I just like that dynamic that they were able to do that. Yeah. In, in the novelization of the movie. Uh mm-hmm. it confirms that Chuck's parents did actually adopt sloth and they went as far as to throw him a bar mitzvah. In the newspaper article of Chester Copper Pot. uh, Chester Copper Pott appears to be about 68 years of age. Mm-hmm. in that, in that photo. You remember that photo that they showed up? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Absolutely. Chester Cobot went into the caves to find one-eyed Willie's treasure and died in 1935, correct? Mm-hmm. Okay. If Chester Copper Pott was 68 in 1935 mm-hmm. Chester Copper Pott would've been born in 1867. That's crazy. See? But hey Alma, he made it pretty far for his age. Right? There's another prequel story right there though, the story of Chester Copper Pot. Absolutely. I mean, we know how it ends for the poor guy, but Right. Leading up to that, I bet the guy had an interesting treasure adventure filled life. Right. If at 68 he could make it that far, yeah, he did pretty good. Yeah. But then when they were like, if Chester Copper Pott couldn't make it past this, how are we expected to do it? Well, that's because you guys are young and Chester Copper Pot was freaking old. Absolutely. He couldn't run fast enough to get away from the rocks much of the theme music for the movie comes from the Adventures of Don Juan starring Arrow Flynn In 1948, sloth is seen in the dungeon room watching similar swashbuckling films from the 1940s and fifties on tv and imagines himself a hero like Flynn, as evidenced by his sliding and slicing down the sail of the pirate ship near the end of the film, which is also another Aero Flynn Classic move. Beautiful. I love it. Like I said, I could watch this movie all day, every day and not get bored of it. See something new. Yep. In another deleted scene, the boys go to a convenience store and run into Troy, who bullies them by taking away their map and lighting it on fire, pretending it's a cigarette, which would explain why the edges of the map are suddenly burnt on the edges. Oh, okay. So in case you didn't catch that, there's that little explanation. Oh, that's cool. I wonder how they got it back from him. That would've been a cool scene to see. Yeah, because Troy was a jerk. The film cinematographer, Mike McLean played mouth's dad. Mm-hmm. Stuntman. Ted Grossman was the dead guy in the freezer. and Richard Donner portrayed the town sheriff. Oh, okay. And at the end where all the families are reunited, Jeff Cohen's mom plays Chuck's mom. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Thought that was a fun little thing I did not know. After Mikey sets off the boulder trap, which ha would have blocked off the caves and tunnels preventing anyone else from going through Mama Jake and Francis Fratelli are seen crossing through the tunnel and finding Chester copper, Pott skeleton. Did you ever notice that I. ever thought about it, right? Yeah. Huh. Yeah. That's crazy. I'm gonna have to go back and watch it specifically for that reason. Does the trap reset I and, and that, okay, so that makes perfect sense because here's the thing, if, if Chester Copper Pot set off the trap when he was there, wouldn't they all have fallen too? Why would just have one fallen on? Exactly. I was just gonna bring that up. Yeah. How was it? Only one that fell on him. Exactly. I don't get it exactly. Ugh. I'm confusing you now, Billy. Yep. You actually, yeah. I'm throwing you for a loop. So the only thing I could think of is the trap resets itself somehow. It has to somehow Yeah, because, um, man, that's bonkers. This note I found online says, in the novelization of the film, when Mikey finds one-eyed Willie skeleton, he discovers one-eyed Willie has an asthma inhaler, which Mikey also suffers from asthma. But how would he have had one? And this leads Mikey to believe that he is one of one I he. This can't be. No, he is one-eyed Willie's reincarnation. No, that's, that sucks. I hate that idea, That just seems ridiculous though. Yeah. So. We already talked about, we talked a lot about the prequel that we wanna see, but mostly the thing that a lot of people are talking about online and all over the place is the sequel. Right? So, Spielberg, uh, he was mo the, the most recent quote we have of Spielberg talking about the sequel was during the Goonies reunion that, uh, that Josh Gad did. Mm-hmm. And he explained that the creative team revisits the idea of a sequel often. Mm-hmm. And it just, it's something that continuously is brought up. Okay. He said, Chris and Dick and I, which will, you know, Richard Donner has passed away. Mm-hmm. Um, so he is no longer with us, but, during the time, he said Richard Dick and I and Lauren Schuler Donner have, have had a lot of conversations about it. And every couple of years we come up with an idea, but then it doesn't hold water. The problem is the bar that all of you raised on this genre, I, I don't think we've really successfully been able to find an idea that is better than the Goonies we made in the eighties. Okay. And because of that, I don't think we're ever gonna see that sequel, but, but we could do a prequel, could do a pre. Based on when I willy, I think that's freaking exciting. Now the most recent attempt to get a sequel made was, put together by the Goldberg's creator Adam Goldberg, and he secretly wrote a script for a sequel to the Goonies. He even met with Richard Donner before he passed away to pitch his idea. Mm-hmm. And he put it out in the universe. He said at the time, for the last nine years, I've been secretly writing part two for fun. He says, it's my masterpiece. I even had a big meeting scheduled with Richard Donner canceled cuz of the lockdown, right? So Covid. Mm-hmm. And then he says The Goonies too will happen when life resumes promise. So he promise that when things got back to normal, okay, the Goonies sequel would happen. He even shared some concept art from it. And it showed that the concept art is this big skull carved out of rock with, some of the members of the Goonies and Shadows standing in front of it. Mm-hmm. And the engraving on the skull reads, one mistake shall reign down Fear, feel the wrath of the Devil's Tears. I have no idea what it means, but I kind of, I'm kind of interested in, uh, learning what that, seeing what happens, what that is. Yeah. Um, and the sequel would be called The Goonies to never Say Die if that ever gets made. I have no idea if it will. There are no details on the story. This has been a passion project for Goldberg though, and if he is actually able to pull it off, awesome. If not, well one-Eyed Willie story is there. Well, I mean, all right. At least somebody's taking the initiative to try to make a sequel, but yes, I would rather see the prequel. Yes. So that's it. That is our episode of The Goonies. We, I had a fun time talking about, did you have fun, bill? Oh, man. I love talking about the Goonies. It's one of my favorite things. Are, is there anything I missed that you wanted to bring up? Um, let's see. I think I hit everything, but I'm not, you know. Nope, you pretty much covered everything that I would've talked about. I, man, we need to get the octopus out there and the gorillas. I had no idea about the gorillas. Man, that's crazy sauce. That just blew my mind. I'm really excited. Yeah. Um, well, before we close up, do you have a favorite quote or scene from the film that you wanna share? Look, I wish I could remember the whole thing, but to this day, well, I already gave one of my, um, favorites, which was, uh, you put it on the wrong way. It's upside down. If God wanted to do that, be pissing in our faces, But the whole scene where mouth is talking to Rosata throughout the house during the tour is just fantastic. So funny. Oh, man, I, yeah, I've seen it hundreds of times, but I still laugh every time I see it. What about you? Do you got anything? Yeah, here we go. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. Everything. Okay, I'll talk. In the third grade, I cheated on my history exam. In the fourth grade, I stole my Uncle Max's toupee and glued on my face. When I was Moses in my Hebrew school play in the fifth grade, I knocked my sister Eddie down the stairs and blame it on the dog when my mom sent me to the summer camp for fat kids and then they served lunch, I got nuts and I picked out and they, and they kicked me out. But the worst thing I ever done, I mixed a pot of fake puke at home and then went to the movie theater, hid my puke in my jacket, climbed up to the balcony, and then, and then I made a noise like this. And then I dumped it over the side, all over the people in the audience. And then this was horrible. And all the people started getting sick and throwing up all over each other. I never felt so bad at my entire life. Ah, I love it. A chunk was that good? That was good. I liked it. Yeah, that did the trick. So that's it everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for joining us on this Goonies adventure with us. It was a lot of fun. If you aren't following us already, please follow us on Facebook and Twitter. Our call sign is at GT secret level. I post stuff there and stuff, so, you know, that's good stuff. Yeah. But thank you. We really appreciate it. Make sure to leave reviews. Give us a thumbs up. Give us a five star re, you know, what do you wanna do? Uh, refer us to your friends. Like share, share this podcast with people so people will listen to it. I don't know. Please. The more the merrier. We're gonna keep going. So it's a party over here at secret level. Just follow us. It'll be amazing. It's always amazing, Billy. Always, everything's always amazing. So thank you and always remember, good journey, good journey. I'm gonna hit you so hard that when you wake up, your clothes will be outta style. I like it. This is ridiculous. It's crazy. I feel like I'm babysitting except I'm not getting paid. uh, Steph. All right. See you, everybody.