THE GARBAGE PAIL KIDS MOVIE - How Did This Monstrosity Even Get Made!?

In Episode 27 of Secret Level, join us as we discuss one of the worst and most disgusting movies ever made... The Garbage Pail Kids Movie! After rewatching this movie, it's hard to believe that it actually exists! We keep asking ourselves how in the world this movie got made! It's a monstrosity! Well, we dive into the wild behind-the-scenes story and there's some absolutely crazy stuff that happened! We also offer some commentary on the ridiculousness of the movie and all the socially unacceptable things that happened in it. We had a blast talking about this movie and we hope you enjoy the show!

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I don't know what to do with my hands. Saddle a partner. We're gonna find a home for the ugly you would wait till I was drinking to do that one. I see how that goes. Yeah, it was so weird starting to watch this movie and seeing like the title card, a tops chewing gum production. right. That's the only one. So weird that right. Tops chewing that, that tops had a production company where they made one movie Uhhuh. Oh, you wanna know something even weirder crazy. What's up. What's that? What's weirder. It's now owned by a former head of Disney, but we'll get into that. Ooh. Ooh, fancy. So fancy Disney know fancy Disney. Oh man. So how you doing? My tummy hurts. Well, what did you eat? Everything. Oh, foul fill. He's so foul man. So Phil. Wow. I don't even know. Yeah. All right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna get into that. Cause he's probably the most disturbing of all of them. Do you remember? I mean, yeah, we just watched this movie, but the theme song of this movie, I was just listening to it before this podcast. Right. And I am just baffled by the ridiculousness of the movie. I mean the song sure. The song eighties to the extreme in the most ridiculous of ways, but the lyrics are just like hilarious. I it's, so I'm hilariously stupid. Right. Okay. But, okay. But before we go on, yeah, let's get into this first, before we go on. Yes. Hello everybody. Welcome to secret level, level, level, level. I am your host. Joey par, Joey, Joey snowy, Joey Joey blow smoke, and Joey cup O Joe overflow, Joe Jolton, Joe and TAC, Joe and joining me today is Billy Fisher blasted, Billy Billy, Billy blended, Billy electric, Billy up pit bill whiz, kid William William Penn. William won't tell fantastic. The thing is, is when you say some of these names, I remember having these cards. I know. Okay. And today we are going to discuss, if you haven't figured it out yet from us talking about it or the title of the episode, we are talking about the classically terrible, absolutely awful grotesque. Disgusting. Just complete bull crap of a movie. The garbage pale kids. Yes. Wow man. Whoa. Okay. I haven't watched this movie since. I don't remember the last time I watched it. It might have been like early teens, like tweens at some point mm-hmm in there. I haven't watched it since. And honestly, I have like little memories of it up until this point of rewatching. It just little tidbits of things that would pop into my head when I think of the garbage pale kids movie. Right. But rewatching it and all it's glory after all these years. Wow. Right. What was this, how did it get made? Did so terrible. I can't even, I can't even believe that someone actually gave this movie a budget and, and made this. It is insane. Yeah. Insane. V that is the way to put it. Um, I remember as a kid watching it and thinking it was hilarious, but now I watch it and I'm like, what did I think was funny about this dude? First of all, first of all, you've got these like 30 year old guys bullying, like this little kid, just like making this poor kid's life, a living, hell. I mean, they're throwing him in the mud. They're punching him, they're throwing him. They're throwing him in sewers. They're leaving him. They try to kill him. They tried to kill him. They left him for dead in a sewer with Razu sewage, splashing him in the. And then you and then you, okay. We've got a lot to say all the sewer pipes. Did you read the sewer pipes that lead to certain places you've got like prime time TV is a sewer pipe. right. Uh, men's room, toxic waste, city zoo. And CIA are part of the sewer piping system. I love that they have'em labeled like that. well, I mean, naturally, like if we ever went down into a manhole, that's exactly what we would say. That's exactly. And it was, it was actually fairly clean for a, for a sewer, I thought. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you're gonna be left for dead in a sewer, I mean, that would be the one to be thrown down in that, that that's the one you want. Absolutely. That's one, one you want, but I, I, yeah, so I, I just love that these guys, they are so old and they, and it's just crazy to watch. Like this is like, they really have nothing better than do than bully the shit out of this kid. and my favorite part is, is that okay? So three of'em are like 30 and then the one that the love interest Tangerine in the movie is only 16 years old, but she looks like she's 40 She looks like she's 40 and all three of'em are reaching off of her, all the money that she can make. Right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So first, before we get into this, we've got, let's do our pleasantries and then let's get into the craziness that can only be called. And the acting was the garbage pill kidney, so terrible on every single level. except for one. Okay. We'll go. Except for one pleasantries pleasantries. Yes. Here we go. Here we go. Okay. Well, Joseph, what did you do this week? I recently. Went on another adventure. Yes. With my brother, Ian, we went up into this canyon up in Utah called death canyon. Oh, of course you did. Seems like a great place to go. Right? Right. So we find this place and there's like four mines in that area. Like these old, precious metal mines, silver gold stuff like that. Mm-hmm so we go in and explore and it's actually pretty cool. We're find, we find like old gloves in there, like super old gloves, boots. Uh, I know like finding jeans in these places is supposed to be really like, like finding gold, like gold, but we didn't find any jeans. We found glove boots on a, a Jean jacket. It wasn't a Jean jacket. So when we were outside of the mind, we were walking around and we saw it was a jumpsuit. Oh, it was a full-on jump suit. It was a full-on jumpsuit of a paramedic. It was a paramedic jumpsuit. Ah, and so we're looking at it and had this big hole, like a shotgun blast, right. To the side of it. Like it looked kind of like fishy. So we're up there. We're like, dude, like what do we, you know, find a dead body up here. Like that would suck. Like, that's pretty crazy. That's naturally the next thing on your list that you guys are gonna find, dude, but yeah, we, we did look, I mean, we went hiking all around the area. We didn't find any dead bodies. Thank goodness. But it was still like kind of creepy to find that thing. But, uh, we went into some minds. We were like going down all these shoots and stuff, there were ladders. I didn't climb up any ladders, but my brother was climbing up ladders. Yes. He was climbing up old hundred year old ladders and I'm like, dude, stop. And Ian's not a small guy. He's not fat. He's just super muscular. And he's always is heavier than most people. And he's just going right up these ladders. And what's like, he owns the place when we first walked in the mine. It's funny because it's super bright outside. So we're in there, we're outside wearing our sunglasses. And the first mine we go into, we turn on our lights and we're like, man, we can't see anything. Why can't we see anything? Like, are these lights working? We'd like flash'em and like, yeah, we're working and. Ian's in front of me. He's like tripping all over the place and like stumbling around. Yeah. And he comes walking up to me. He's got his sun glad he didn't take his sunglasses off in the mine. So it was double darkness. Why? It was so funny. Uh, that makes me happy. That was great. Uh, so we did that. That was fun. Uh, nothing too crazy. Other than finding. You know that old paramedics jumpsuit, and the gloves and stuff, but the mines were cool to explore. We didn't find any gold. We found a ton of fools gold mm-hmm But, uh, none of the real stuff, unfortunately, cuz that would've been that would've been nice, that would've been epic. And then on the entertainment front, I finished, extraordinary turn Wu the first season and I loved it so much. And if you haven't started watching it yet, you're missing on a good show. Everybody go see it, go watch it. I, we started the first five minutes of it and then Jessica realized that we have to read and she can't work on her geek Tarran posts while watching it. So we have to like make designated times to watch the show. So that's where yeah, I had to make designated time cuz I can't watch and read. I can't write, read and watch things at the same time. Right. I am multi. I am multi I can multi-task but there's some things that just are too much for me. Everybody that's too much. Yeah. Too much. I didn't ask anybody to do it still a great show. Great show. And I loved how it ended. I was so happy with the ending made me so happy. Just brings joy into my life. That show. Oh, that's on my list. We're gonna watch it. What about you, bill? What'd you do? Um, really besides working my normal humdrum job, I got into a podcast and cool. It's not the, it's not the kind that I normally get into. Cause I normally don't like dramatized podcast. Okay. Like I don't, I don't like the ones where they're trying to, I don't know. It, they always seem really overed. Sure. Um, but I started listening to one called Batman unburied. Oh yeah. Okay. I've listened to that. I loved that thing. That's great. It's great. I so good. I stumbled upon it. Yeah, it was. I just, all I did was stumble upon it. I was just like, oh, and then I looked at the voice cast and I was like, Winston duke has Bruce Wayne. Okay. I got a list. I gotta hear how he does it. my favorite part is, is that he doesn't do the normal Batman thing. Yeah. And it starts off weird. I'm not gonna say anything. It starts off weird. You're not expecting the way it starts off. But then when in about episode three, things start getting their groove on. So just listen to it. It, it really, um, in between listening to episodes of haunted places, I was listening to Batman unburied and it was, are you enjoying haunted places? Haunted places is fun. Yeah. I'm really enjoying that right now. Cool. So that, that the weird addiction of I have to listen to haunted places, but then I'd throw in a couple Batman episodes in between now the same, uh, company that does haunted places. We're plugging another podcast here. We're not being paid for it. These are just podcasts. We listen to anyway, uh, same company that does, that does another one that I'm listening to now called cults. And it just, oh, talks about cults, like all the cults ever. Okay. And it's pretty insane. There's some great. We have to listen to it. There's some crazy cults out there. Everybody crazy cults. I'm gonna catch up. I'm I gotta get caught up with haunted places and then we'll add another one in there so I can make it a weekly thing. Sure, sure. You got a lot of catch up haunted places as like thousands of episodes. I think it, it does. It's a lot. It's daunting, but I'm on, I'm on track. awesome. All right. So, and then we got garbage pale kids, the movie, garbage pale kids, the movie, everybody look, if you have not watched this show since you were a kid. Don't watch it now. well, here's the thing it's or you can't really hard to find or you can we, yeah, so I found it for free on some random website. I can't even remember what I sent you. and that's where I watched it and that's where bill watched it. But yeah, it's a hard movie to find like, and you're not, no one wants to claim ownership and I don't want you to spend money to buy it. It's not don't streaming anywhere. You'd have to rent it from like apple or Amazon or something. And it's a movie you don't, unless you really get to get a group of people together to like laugh and have a good time. Right. Then sure. Go ahead and spend the 2 99 to rent it. But if you're gonna watch it by yourself, just kind of do some Googling and find it for free online somewhere. In the end though. I mean, it's a waste of time. it is. Okay. So I thought, I thought that I've watched it twice and I thought it wasn't worth my time. Then I, you watch it twice, twice. Holy crap, dude, in your life, or recently, just recently for this episode, I watched it twice. Wow. You're crazy. but the, the whole reason being is I was, I was looking, I was thinking about quotes in the movie and I realized one of the characters has really inspired and eloquent quotes throughout the whole movie. Sure, sure. Right. But it's overshadowed by complete shit. Yes, it is. It's like, it's like reaching into a clog toilet full of shit and pulling out a diamond you don't wanna do it, but you know, what's in there. So you do it anyway. So yeah, we're, we're gonna get into that. Wow. Wow. So just a few things, just a few things I wanna point out personally, before we kind of dive into this there's I just, man. Okay. We talked about the kid being bullied by 30 year old men. there's just some weird scenes in this. There's a scene where Dodger is with Tangerine and he like leans in and just like, like really puts his face in her hair and smells it when she's not paying attention. Yeah, it was, it was a very awkward kind of creepy scene's super awkward. There's there's another moment where they're where these boys are. This collector shop where this kid's friend lives, where these garbage PE kids are from and they're, you know, bullying them and beating the hell out of him. And a kid tries the run out of the store and this girl grabs and Tangerine's friend grabs him and he like shoves, this kid's head. It puts his, her, his head in a headlock right into her breast. Like he's, she's like pushing his face. Right. Mm-hmm into her breasts. Mm-hmm you're like what, what Yeah. And yeah, she's like 30 he's 15 at the time. Yes. He and tan. And the girl who played Tangerine are 15 and 16 respectively. And it's a lot of situations. You wouldn't want your kid in? No, not at all. Not at all. Like, look, I collected garbage pale kid carts when I was growing. I remember getting 50 cents from my parents. And there was this corner store by where I went to school and I'd go in there and I'd give the person 50 cents and he'd gimme garbage pale kits cards. And right. I used to have a whole shoebox full of them. I don't, my mom probably threw'em away at some point, but, uh, I loved the, I, I enjoyed those things and I was, I remember being like, oh yeah, a movie. right. And then, then the movie came out and wow. Wow. I don't know the garbage pillow kids, the characters or nightmare fuel. Yeah. Completely terrifying. You got the nerd character. Who's like constantly just pissing all over the place. And yeah, I didn't remember that much pee when I so did, but there was so much nerd, so much pee. Yep. Net nerd liked to pee his pants and he thought it was cool. And the sad thing about it is net nerd is voiced by, the one and only voice of Winnie the poo Jim Cummings. Oh my gosh. And he hated this movie so much. He tries to deny that he was even in it. He should, he should deny all the way to the, all the way home. He needs to deny it. Deny, deny, deny. Then you had alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator who had a lunch box full of body parts, eyeballs, and toes specifically, and fingers and stuff like that. Fingers. You're just like. These are things I do not remember when I watched it as a kid, I have no recollection of these things until I rewatched it. There's a scene, Billy mm-hmm where Dodger mm-hmm is taking a bath in the basement, in the middle of a basement where there is no in the middle of plumbing or piping of any kind mm-hmm and everyone, all of the garbage pillow kids are standing around him. Right. Watching him take a bath Uhhuh. What I was watching this, and my mind was just melting all over the place, because it was, it was so crazy that it was such a, it was such a what the moment, you know what I mean? That, that, um, Produce two things. One the sight gag of alligator, trying to eat his toes. Yes. And two Valerie vomit, completely checking him out and making weird, weird statements. So weird all over the place, man. There was such so awkward, right? It was such an awkward scene. Yeah. And then you've got the scene in the alley where Uhhuh, uh, Tangerine selling her clothes. Right. And all the girls in the alley are undressing in front of this 15 year old kid. And I like they're down the brass and panties and I'm like, this is they're in a, they are in a dirty freaking alley. you're behind a club behind a club. Yeah. Right. This is insane. Look. Okay. So we need to talk about this. So the. Original idea for the garbage pale kids. It was supposed to be a horror film. Sure. Yes. John call John Carl Butler, the guy who directed Friday the 13th was originally gonna direct it. And the premise was the garbage pale kids. Would've spawned from radioactive sludge that had found its way into a garbage can filled with broken dolls, turning them into serial killers. And it might have been a better movie. I'll be honest. I love that idea. It might, that probably would've been a much better film. A hundred percent. It would've been better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then the, the director that ended up making it, rod Amato. Mm-hmm he? This, obviously wasn't a passion project for him. he did. What makes you say that? he did it for the, he did it for the money. Right, right. Mm-hmm uh, This guy had been making movies in Hollywood since the 1940s mm-hmm he started off doing stunts for movies, like mighty Joe Young, you know, in 1951, he directed a movie called the Bush whackers mm-hmm and when it came to the eighties, he's looking to retire. He needed like one more movie to make, just to kind of like his Swan song. something make something then right off into the sunset afterwards. And he thought that garbage PE kids was going to be his ticket out. His, his, you know, he saw the popularity of it. Amato is the one that optioned the rights to garbage pale kids and he right. Brought it to tops. And this is what he said in an interview with flickery. He said it's important that minor directors like me fill their pension fund and their health and welfare. And that's kind of like why he wanted to do the movie man. Well, he also is known for saying the check cleared. It's not a picture that you think about, it's a picture you shoot He knew what it was. He knew exactly what it was. Yep. He just wanted that money. Uh, the star of the film, uh, Mackenzie Aston told mental floss that this film assured that amou would basically enjoy the benefits of the director's Guild for the rest of his days. Perfect. For the rest of his life, amou retired after the garbage pale kids movie came out mm-hmm and he never held any other project before his death. So this was the last thing he ever did. Yeah. I mean, and what a way to go out. I mean, what a fantastic movie to go out on, but like you said, the check cleared, I guess that's all that really mattered. Apparently from what I read. The movie was originally supposed to go straight to TV, like straight to a TV market. Oh, okay. Which I thought was interesting and yeah. How would, so it went from TV into, into what it became. Okay. Yeah. So, the story for the film was put together by bill 10 mm-hmm He was the guy in charge of Atlantic releasing. Okay. And they distributed the movie. Amato said, I don't know where he came up with it. He gave it to me on a sheet of paper. We made it into a screenplay and we were shooting in 60 days. From the time I walked into his office, it was a very, very low budget picture, obviously. So the creator of the garbage PE kids, mark new garden, wanted to be involved with the writing process of the film, but yeah, he was told to stay away they did not want him involved. He explained, in an interview saying I would've loved to be involved in a garbage PE kid's script, but Arthur, sh would've never permitted it. The producer, he says, tops. Didn't wanna spending our valuable time on anything that might interfere. With getting the next series out with these license deals. It was always a case of take the money and run. There was never any semblance of quality control once garbage PE kids passed to another entity now, is that, so he never, he never touched the movie. He never had anything to do with it. He just watched, he just watched us through creative team, take his thing and bastardize it. Right. I mean, they're gonna try to get money on any front. They could, they were trying to milk it for all. It was. Yeah. But ultimately in the end, the movie killed the trading cards. Oh 100%. Yeah. Cuz I remember they tried to come out with a couple other series, but I really didn't care at that point. Yeah. So they were, they tops prepared. 16th series of garbage Pell kids cards that were set to be released in 1988. But the company opted not to even bother with the cost of mass printing them and sending them out because the movie was a giant failure. I know we keep saying that, but I mean, in the end, the movie actually remade its budget. So I mean, it didn't fail as far as money goes. Sure. But it failed in keeping its fans. Yes. Yeah. Cuz everybody wanted to see what they were gonna do. And frankly, the garbage pale kids that we got were so lackluster compared to the rest of the cards. I think that was the real letdown. Yeah. Well, not only that, but you also had, I mean there were parrots groups that were protesting garbage PE kids and. There was a garbage bell kid, Saturday morning cartoon, right. That even narrowed at one point. And I mean, there were, this is just a, this was just a property that parents obviously weren't gonna like, so they protested it and companies caved and were just like, man, we can't, we can't give this stuff to kids. Right. We can't sell this stuff to kids. It's like selling a really bad crack with gum. My goodness. There was no crack in it. I don't know. There might have been crack in that gum could be, we all bought a lot. Ah, a lot. Cut my cheek. No kidding. Right. It was like razor gum. pink razor gum. Oh, oh Billy. Before we go any further, you gotta read the synopsis. Oh yes. Yes. We didn't even read that. Let's go. Let's do it now. Let's do it now. All right. Real quick. I'm just gonna read the first paragraph of the two. Screw it. I'm gonna read the whole thing. Read it. okay. Here we go. Dodger. A 15 year old kid works at an antique shop owned by the wizard captain Manzini while working there, four bullies stopped by and wrecked the place leaving Dodger in the sewer. He's later rescued by the garbage bale kids, a group of misfit children that love to break the rules and be disgusting. Children well, I mean, I have an argument for that in a second, but we're gonna call them misfit children for the time being okay. Sounds good. They were at released from a garbage PA owned by Manzini and much to his chagrin. They refused to go back. As Dodger gets to know the kids, he finds out, they know how to sew clothes and uses their talents to impress Tangerine. One of the female bullies, unfortunately, before Dodger can. Really hit it off with her. The kids are captured by the state home for the ugly, an institution that incarcerates anybody considered too ugly for society Dodger. And Manzini decide to infiltrate the prison and save the kids from being euthanized. What the dude? The state home for the ugly, the state home for the ugly there's some highlights in the state home for the ugly. I forgot about the state home for the ugly. That's the worst place in the world. What are you talking about? And if you ever wondered what happened to Santa Claus, Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln, they're all in the state home for the ugly. They're awful. They're all there. That's where they're at. Yep. But those guys aren't getting euthanized. No, they're gonna kill children. They're gonna kill children. Yes. But here's the. Did you ever catch in the intro that the garbage pale is a spaceship? Yes. So they're, they're alien children, alien children. And not only is it their group, but there's multiple groups that they're looking for. I think that would've been bad ass. Had they opened a whole bunch of garbage fails and like just nasty kids from the cards come flowing out a garbage pill, kid, multiverse spit my water on the computer. Oh my gosh. That is the next big thing. Whoever owns the garbage pill fit kids franchise. You heard it here. First, everybody, the garbage belt kids needs to have its own cinematic universe. Man. Well, it'll never happen, you know? Well, it could because former Disney chairman, Michael Eisner owns the rights to the garbage panel. Oh, he what's he doing with him these days? Well, he actually tried to make it into a movie franchise. In 2007. He bought the tops trading card company with the hopes of bringing the garbage pale kids back to the big screen. Then he announced in 2012 that, uh, he's not gonna follow through with that. Dang it. But actually I don't blame him. I don't know we'll ever see anything. I don't know if we'll ever see any TV show or animated series or film ever again, based on the garbage pale kits. I don't think, I don't know, man. I think if done right, it could be something. Wild and crazy, but it's like one of those movies that would have to start like knit cage. like, he gets lost in a world of the garbage pale kids, something like that. Right. Oh man. Something that, yeah. Something other than what we got. And that's the thing too though. I don't think they're meant for the big screen. They're perfect for the cards. Perfect. For the cards. I could see a dude garbage pill kid cards would be, would make great NFTs. Right? I'm surprised those don't exist. I bet those would be huge. Aw man, maybe I should cut that out so people don't take the idea cuz now we need to go get the rights and start turning out garbage PE kit NFTs. Do that. I'm learning a lot about NFTs right now. Just to get, get that just wondering yeah. That came outta nowhere. So yeah. Yes. Uh, yeah. Crazy. Crazy. Yeah. I don't know. I was just thinking about one scene. I just wanna bring it up real quick. Actually. It kind of leads into other things when the garbage be kids, at one point, they go into this movie theater yeah. And no one notices how freaking weird and jacked up these kids are. It's like, they're fine with how these kids look and that they're like creepy looking and there's nothing normal about'em, but they're treating it as if they're completely normal people. They do this in the bar and where, where alligator bites off the guy's toes. Um, You've got cops running around trying to catch them. And with nets with giant nets, of course, they're running around with giant cartoon nets. Look, bro. Did you, do you remember Valerie vomit made them perfect costumes so they could blend in with society and never be seen as ugly little kids. Yes. Yes. Trench coats, Berets and sunglasses. That will do it every time. Here's the crazy thing though. Yes. After all this time and they're out doing stuff, right, right. The garbage bell kids are out in the open. They're seeing people they're interacting with people all throughout the movie. Absolutely. It is not until the very end of the film at the fashion show disaster where people actually start freaking out about these kids, these, these garbage PE kids. Well, yeah, because one of them's farting, so crazy. It's blowing people over one. Chick's got constant snot coming out of her nose and touching everyone and one kid just vomits, just blah, blah. And I still haven't figured out why greaser Greg is considered gross. Like he's just a little person with slick back hair. Oh, greaser Craig greaser. Greg, that guy. Yeah, that guy. But yeah, I mean, in the end they had to make up some kind of drama for this to happen. Uh, I do recall, uh, Mackenzie asked in saying that in an interview, I read that he called the older kids' drug dealer. Sure. Obviously. So obviously did he get in? Yeah. Right. Did he get in with drug dealers? Yeah, he totally was in with drug dealers. You think they were selling clothes in the alley? You think they were, it was really clothes. Look. They had to be for all these people to want these clothes that these so bad little people are making they're so bad. I mean, I'm just gonna randomly throw a bow tie around my neck and call it fashion. Yes. Sweet Mackenzie Aston. Actually he is the younger brother of Sean Aston. Right. He tried to quit this movie. Oh yeah. But he'd already signed that contract. He already signed the contract. He didn't tell his dad anything about it till it was too late. His dad actor, John Aston, who was the original Gomez Adams? Yes. Yep. it's for all of you who didn't know who the Aston brothers dad was. Look, dude, Mackenzie was on like this upward trajectory before he did this movie. He was in the facts of life. Everybody knew him from the facts of life. Yeah. And he does this movie and nothing ever again, almost seems like I don't recall him. He, I see him all the time, like a background character, like a one episode character, like in like, Grey's anatomy or something. You'll see.'em pop up. Yeah. But nothing really solid. Uh, since the garbage pale kids, he said in an interview, he said I was a fan of the cards. I know I was more enamored with the idea of starring in a movie than focused on whether the material was worth investing. Right. Obviously. Yes. Yeah. And he talks about his father and how he didn't tell his dad about it. His dad, when his dad read the script and all that stuff, he knew it was going, it was a career killing misfire mm-hmm but McKenzie said the contracts were signed by the time my dad had a chance to look at the script. He did everything he could to get me out of it. Like, dude, this is not a good idea, son. I know what I'm talking about, but there was nothing they could do. He had to do the film. Ugh. Ugh. I know crazy thing though. Billy mm-hmm yes. I, I probably would've did it too. Oh, absolutely. It's a movie. Yeah. And if you're gonna get cash in a movie and it's a garbage pale kid movie and you're a kid and you're a fan of the cards. Yeah, I would've did it. I would've did it. Absolutely. And, you know, here's the thing, as, as bad as the movie was I, and as hard of hard as it was for Mackenzie to make the movie, imagine the little people who had to be in those giant masks, dude, dude, whoa, those guys, whoa. Right. They went through hell, those, those costumes were 80 pound suits, right. They were wearing 80 pound costumes. Billy. Yeah. 80 pounds made out of foam and latex, their heads were loaded with radio controlled puppetry. Right. So that the lips and the eyes and all that stuff could move. And none of it operated correctly. No. Nope. They were using acrylic paint, which does not allow any kind of flexibility. So it would harden when it dried and after he finished the heads and put'em on the actors, these got even more gross for the characters because they were the, they were falling apart and they didn't have money to like re like do multiple heads. So they just constantly threw out the filming of the movie when like the mouths would rip on the sides or something like that. Right. They just had to keep fixing those same heads all throughout the movie and patching them up and stuff like that. It, it gets weird cuz as you watch the movie, you notice that these heads are slowly falling apart and there's nothing they can do about it. You could tell they're trying to patch it, but you could just, yeah, they're just piecing apart. It's so nasty. Yeah, but my favorite part is, okay, so rod, uh, Amato was probably not the most PC of individuals, but he's been quoted as saying we got dwarves and put heads on them. and found out how long they could survive in there without breathing. And it turned out to be about five to seven minutes. So we had to rehearse everything without the heads on put the heads on, have a paramedic with a stopwatch, the little sons of bitches go in there and you say action. And you shoot until they can't breathe. That's madness, madness that breaks so many laws. Let's just shoot that. They pass out everybody. oh my gosh. Oh, that is awful. What terrible working conditions, right? But, I mean, a lot of'em, a lot of the actors said it was a job we're getting paid, so they're gonna do it. Yeah. Um, one of the actors was art Arturo Gill, and he said we had limited vision. And sometimes we would miss our final mark. At times the production would put tape on the floor to help us follow a path so that we wouldn't bump into the furniture or other cast members. We could hardly hear the actor's dialogue. As we had servos inside our heads animating the facial features of our characters. Not only were the animatronic heads difficult to wear the servos inside the huge heads made dialogue very difficult. We literally had to scream out our lines so that Anthony newly and Mackenzie Aston could hear us. Our voices were muffled in the heads. Many times, rod Amato had to scream cut several times because we couldn't hear. Wow. Wow. There just seems such a nightmarish situation to be right. What a horrible nightmarish production. This must have been filming a movie, even a good movie is awkward enough because if you got cameras all over the place you got the way they shoot it. You're just doing these quick little scenes here and there, different angles, stuff like that. It's, it's already awkward and, and a weird thing to be doing. Right. Right. Just to add, to make it more difficult, like this, just add so much insanity to the situation. Oh, I can't even, oh, it's so sad. So sad. Well, in the, uh, so one of the more famous actors was. Phil fond. Decar he is an actor that you had see in Willow. He, he played, uh, VO NA in, uh, Willow, like the, the warrior. Yeah. He, well, he dropped half dropped out, halfway through filming and let his brother finish it up for him. He just couldn't handle it anymore. He did go on to make Willow. So that was cool. But I mean, he was just like, no, this isn't working good for him. He knew he had to get out. He knew it. Wasn't helping anything. my gosh. Oh man. So yeah, I mean, I'm glad everybody survived. There's no stories I looked at. There's no stories of anyone dying on set, but, well, that's good to know. I'm glad no one died in the making of this movie. they should have put that at the end credits. No humans died during the making of this movie. Yep. But I do have to say the, the poster was cool. Sure. Posters could be cool. Trailers can be cool. Yeah, but it doesn't mean you're gonna get a cool movie. Yeah. I'm just trying to look at some positives in this thing. I know, I know you are looking at the positive aspect of the garbage pale kids movie. We all watched it. At some point, we all have a certain feeling towards it. I just didn't realize it was gonna make me feel this uncomfortable, you know, later on in life. Yeah. It was really weird watching it as an adult in this day and age where a lot's changed in like the last five years, so much has changed about what's socially acceptable and stuff like that. And so. I'm watching this. You're just like nothing about this is socially acceptable. I mean, this is, that's what garbage Pell kids is though. Right? I guess they hit on the head. They did exactly what the garbage pill. This is the opposite of what society should be. We're gonna make that movie. Right. And boy, did they nail that? They certainly did. It is one of the worst reviewed movies ever made and has the rare privilege to have a 0% rating on rotten tomatoes. We should do a show on the zero percenters. We should. That's a great idea. Actually, we just started it right now, but yeah, I can. I loved it as a kid and now watching it as an adult, I don't know why, you know, I, I honestly, I. For me. I don't remember. I know I watched it as a kid cause I have these like memories of it, but I don't mm-hmm I don't remember if I liked it or not. I don't remember how I felt after I watched it. I don't like in, in, obviously it didn't have that much of an impression on me because there were films that I watched earlier in life, like et and, uh, return of the Jedi, which are movies that I've watched very early on when I was like a little, little kid. And I remember those experiences. Right. But a movie like garbage felt kids, obviously it did not hit me as a cinematic masterpiece when I was, you know, five right. Whatever, absolutely whatever age I was. Uh, yeah. Uh, some of the reviews mm-hmm, called it a stunningly inept and total reprehensible film. It was labeled an ugly, brutal humor, humorless, exploitation, flick. I can see that it was also called misogynistic and morbidly curious, whatever that means. Morbidly curious. Okay. Hmm. Well, they liked it, but here's the thing, all these bad reviews, but it took me this last time to realize they must have had a room full of idiots writing the dialogue for everybody else. And then one pro writing for captain Manzini. Dude. I don't even know what was going on with some of the dialogue. I mean, it was all over the place I don't, it was just crazy. It was yeah, just sitting there listening and, and maybe it's just. Writing for who, how do you write for these garbage pale kid characters? Right? How do you write, right? You just gotta make it the most gross, disgusting, shocking thing that you could think of. Mm-hmm and keep the story flowing with whatever they throw into these characters mouths. Right. I don't know. Okay. So in the end, I did see the moral of the story. I understood what they're trying to go for. Cuz if you look at it, the garbage pale kids are considered the outcast, the ugly, the, we don't want them around kind of, element in our lives and then Tangerine who's beautiful and is talented and is looking like she could be end up being the one. Yeah. Turns. She's a complete a-hole and the garbage pale kids are cool. You know what I mean? They're fun to hang out with. They're nice to'em they, they do anything for their friends. And so it's, that's the moral of the story. You can't judge a book by its cover cuz man Tangerine was an a-hole at the end of that. Yeah. I remember one of the lines where she's like finally comes like, comes to her senses and, the kid she's like, maybe we can just be friends. Maybe we can just do fun things together. And he is like, no, thanks. I don't think you're pretty anymore. Ouch. And that's the moral of the story right there. Yeah. Yep. If there is a moral, that is it. Yep. Solid burn. Yeah. I mean, yeah, sure. All right. So you got anything else for this? Um, Dumpster fire of a movie. Yeah. Uh, nice Aston Mackenzie Aston, just got of the, his thoughts on it. Mm-hmm because he had a hard time being in this movie, as we talked about before, it was a career killing flick to be a part of. Right. And in an interview with slash film, he talked about that years later saying having this be part of your childhood is a little bit icky, but especially as it relates to me coming from an acting family, right. Because he, you know, Sean Austin, his dad, John Austin, mm-hmm um, the actor says that it haunted him for years until he got old enough to basically just stop giving a shit. So he basically just accepted the movie for what it was like. Right. That's all you can do. so, you know, he eventually accepted it for what it was and kind of just whatever it is, what it is, what can you do? Right. Right. What's done is done. Uh, there was a ton of lost garbage pale kids, movie merchandise that was made. Really? Yes, no. They wanted to bring in extra revenue to offset the production costs of the film. Mm-hmm while also serving as a promotion. Okay. so they were planning when the garbage Pell kids movie was going to hit theaters. There was this mm-hmm big thing where they were gonna have this big merchandise blitz, where they were gonna put all kinds of garbage, Pell kid stuff out to the public, into the market so people could buy it, but it never really happened on a large scale. So apparently there was just a lot of stuff that never got released. There's probably like a, it's probably like a hole in the desert next to where all the et video game cartridges were buried full of garbage PE kid toys and merchandise and stuff. No, it seems to be the thing Yeah. Now what they probably like, where did they bear? Where did they bury the et video games guys? Uh, yeah, we know let's go, let's go bury all this stuff out there. Yeah. Let's go bury it underneath the et stuff. yeah. Let's not ever let it see the light of day. Yeah. So the movie bombed and obviously because the movie bomb, no one was going out to buy stuff. Right. Just, yeah. Other than that, I mean, what are some quotes, Billy? You know what, like I said, I mean, most of it's just mindless driven, mindless driven people. Just commenting on how NA nerd. Peed his pants, but then you've got these sequences where Dodgers talking to captain Manzini and he comes up with these, you know, when he's simply just talking about a, a hand fan and in the end of that conversation, he said, then some Dan fool invented gut and powder and a bigger damn fool split the atom. That's when I decided to leave mankind to its folly and retire here into a world of memories. Ah it's it's like, what the crap is that? Why couldn't somebody write like that for the rest of the movie? Because we need a dialogue like this to happen, Billy okay. I'm excited. I don't think you're ugly. Exactly. You wanna suck face yes. You wanna suck face? Yep. Yes. Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know. I can't believe they got away with it. This is, this is one of those ones where the people who made it were just like, ha got'em then you got these lines, like don't that's poison. Hey, drink the red and you get dead, man. I mean, it was pretty amazing. Oh then of course there's that line. You wanna see a dog winking off into a garbage pale? I don't know, man. I don't know. It just hurts me. Oh, it makes no sense. I know, but there it is folks. It was made. We did it. Yes. So the garbage pale kids movie, everybody, we did it. Don't watch it. or watch it. I mean, it's really up to you. If, if you found that what we were talking about made you want to watch it and revisit this delightful treat, right. That's a good way to put it delightful. Treat, enjoy, enjoy yourselves, indulge and enjoy. Oh man. But thank you. For listening as always. We really appreciate it. 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